On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:22 AM, C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you're getting something a bit confused here..  Firstly, being able
> to selectively update parts of your system is a design choice and feature..
> The benefit I *think* you're referring to is the file level dependency
> resolution.  With this it upgrades only the *files* you need to vs the whole
> package.  The motivation for this afaik is to make the dependency resolution
> smarter.


I like this feature. But IPS didn't invent it.
Conary can and does do this since 2004.
In conary it allows you - among many other things - to create so
called "virtual appliances".
Cut-down precisely tailored minimized/shrinked versions of an OS,
which only contains exactly what is required to run a desired
application foo, with all dependency-resolution done for you, on a
FILE BASED level, not on a package based level. But IPS doesn't
support that, and lacks most other great features which the original,
namely CONARY, offers.
Think of conary as something like SVN for the entire installed binary system.
Conary also permits you to generate packages by so called "cooking of
sources", similar to what pkgbuild does.
And all this under one hood.

It was there, it was under some opensource license, Sun didn't use it.
This would be ok if they either had used another existing technology
or if they would have listened to developers like Moinak. Instead all
his other BeleniX ideas have been re-wrapped as "Indiana", and he has
been urged away.
Somewhere Dr. Hahn had written (I must look it up, it was in 2008):
"Moinak, it didn't go the way you preferred, that's bad luck for you,
now let us work and be quiet."

And this after they stole much of BeleniX's key innovations for their
own non-mutually NonCommunity created Indiana "OpenSolaris Community
Distro 200n.nn"    ...


Well, I didn't want to start that topic again.
Because those in charge do not listen.


Have a nice day.

%martin
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