On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Shawn Walker <swal...@opensolaris.org> wrote: > Moinak Ghosh wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Lurie <y...@gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> So modern Linux package managers do not have any of these qualities ? >>> >>> Some of them ? Of course. All of them ? No. Just a few points: >>> 1. They usually upgrade a live system (and while it's possible for some >>> to do a non-live upgrade, the live upgrade is exactly how pretty much all of >>> them operate by default). >> >> Yes. But the separate boot environment pieces is what is delivered by >> ZFS + >> Caiman Installer, not a package manager feature per-se. > > Yes, but without integration with the package management system, they would > be rather cumbersome to use. >
beadm is not hard to use even outside pkg(5), i've used it in the past to for example have an alternate BE that is xen able >> Relative. If one wants to benefit from open-sourcing then in the longer >> run, >> for some stuff, it is better to work with the community and try to >> utilize >> synergies with community run projects rather than doing everything in >> own >> way. > > The pkg(5) team has worked with the OpenSolaris community directly and > invites any members that want to participate in its development to do so. > The source code has been hosted on opensolaris.org publicly for a long > time, and almost all discussions surrounding its design occur on the public > pkg-discuss mailing list. > > Your primary gripe about IPS seems to be "why didn't they just enhance > another packaging system." You could ask that same question about thousands > of other open source projects. There's a saying, "when all you have is a > hammer, everything looks like a nail." You seem to be looking at things the > same way... > > Cheers, > -Shawn > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
