[email protected] wrote:
Ghee Teo wrote:
So what is your 'supports' for doing the things the ways you are doing
that are supposed to be helpful to Solaris users to migrate/upgrade to
OpenSolaris. Have you considered also the hundreds of ISV for Solaris
will now to adapt to the new paradigm?
I can't answer that as I wasn't part of the initial design team, if you
want to discuss the design of pkg(5), I suggest posting on pkg-discuss.
With that said, every design decision that I'm aware of since I joined
the team has been made with the full input and due consideration of
multiple, interested parties. The popularity of the OpenSolaris 200x
releases vs. that of the Solaris Express releases in terms of usage
speaks for itself IMO.
That's not entirely true; quite a few people argued for "scripting at
install" and they were denied as there was clearly not a discussion
but more of a "this is the plan and we're not changing it".
On the contrary, where there has been a discussion beyond "how do I do
scripting" the conversations have been quite fruitful. In fact, there
have been several areas that have been simplified as a result of the no
scripting requirement in the packaging system.
So far, no one has yet been able to provide a detailed usage case they
need scripting in *packaging context*. And the fact that many builds
have been delivered since OpenSolaris 2008.05 and the system can still
be upgraded from any of them should prove something ...
These people have unsubscribed because they felt there was no actual
discussion taking place.
Really? The complaint I usually hear is that there is too much
discussion and too much code activity taking place and that is why
people don't subscribe or unsubscribe ;)
I think that our large customers are underrepresented in OpenSolaris and I
fear that the way AI-Install works complete disregards our most important
customers, at least, that is what some of them say to me.
As Glenn and others have said, all of the enterprise functionality some
customers desire in the packaging system and other areas is not yet in
place. For now, Solaris 10 releases remain the best option for them.
Cheers,
--
Shawn Walker
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