> > You're getting to see the process from the > > slaughterhouse through the kitchen, > > instead of just getting the steak delivered on a > > plate when it's fully cooked > > like you did before - it's going to be messy, but > > hopefully we'll end up with > > a better product in the end. > > And that's perfectly fine, great even, no problem with that at all! > > What makes me personally extremely angry and frustrated is the level of > *aggresive* marketing and promotion of OpenSolaris as the be-all, end-all, > "the next big thing", "THE Solaris.Next" and "use it today!", and then when > one does actually attempt to use it and finds all these deficiencies, only > THEN do the excuses start: [...]
Well, I've watched this thread go by... we've been through this, on this list and others, a number of times. I understand your frustration, as I have been feeling it myself. Yes, Sun has made two big mistakes: Implementing IPS in Python, and ditching scripting capability in the packages. I'm sure these seemed like good engineering decisions way back at the drawing board. But they're a disaster in terms of marketing, installed base, and usability. But Sun has always been engineering rather than marketing driven, and frankly, that's why I like them. :-) In the end, we need to move on in a constructive way. They're not going to axe IPS and replace it with SysV packages or anything else. It's here to stay. Same goes for AI and OpenSolaris as a whole. What we need now is best practices guides/cookbooks/howtos/whatever on how to overcome these deficiencies: How to design packages so that they don't hamper IPS performance, how to create SMF services that do the jobs previously done by preinstall/postinstall and CAS. I want blueprints, white papers, code samples, etc. etc. Look at the Apple knowledgebase to see it done right. While ranting and raving feels good immediately, working on a good documentation base that includes real life working samples of "well-defined" packages will be more worthwhile in the long run. Because I do want that database that springs to life just out of a pkgadd... errr... pkg install. :-) Regards -- Volker -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: [email protected] Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
