On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 03:13 -0700, Erik Trimble wrote: > Haulyn Jason wrote: > > > > Many things changed, we must face to these, but, can anybody tell me, > > how can we still believe oracle will keep opensolaris as now? Who can > > make sure opensolaris will not change it's own way? > > > > is it the time to migrate from sun(now as oracle/sun) productions to > > linux, although I do not want to. > > > Frankly, while I'm not terribly happy with some of the things being > slowly dribbled out (and, less so in the manner that they're happening), > I think it's far too early to make such decisions now. > > It's barely a month after the formal close of the merger. As someone > from the inside's experience, there's still a huge amount of work to be > done as to integrating Sun into Oracle, which include a massive amount > of education on both sides as to how things both did and might work in > the future. While I'm sure that Oracle had it's plan for what it was > going to do with Sun after the acquisition, there's an old saying in the > military: No Plan Survives Contact with the Enemy. I'm /very/ certain > that whatever plan Oracle came in with, it's going to undergo (possibly > radical) change now that the merger is actually finalized. > > Go ahead and take what information they're giving you for now, and make > sure you give our Sales Reps your feedback, both good and bad. That's > how the /real/ decisions are going to be made. I think there is a > strong possibility that there will be *several* changes in direction and > policies over the coming months, as Oracle figures out what they're > really doing with Sun; part of that process is Oracle figuring out how > their perceived notions fit with the reality of both the marketplace and > Sun's existing customer base. > > Bottom line: it's very premature to bail right now. That's a huge > thing to do, given that what is said today may not be the reality > tomorrow. I'm not saying sit on your hands and do nothing, but certainly > jumping ship at the first sign of trouble is equally foolish.
I certainly wouldn't call this "the first sign of trouble". Moreover, I just found this from OGB Minutes of Feb. 23rd: "Q - PT - What about support on third-party hardware? A - DR - At this point Oracle is very focused on places where they can make revenue and margin. Unfortunately for us, we have not seen a good uptake on those standalone subscriptions. Has seen more emails on the topic than the total number of systems sold. Hard to make a case. At this point, there are no plans to support non-Sun systems. We will continue to honor existing contracts for the term of that contract. Over time, we hope to move folks over to Sun hardware. Q - PT - What about regular Solaris? A - DR - Same answer as above. Q - PT - Will the ability to download and run it without support continue? A - DR - Look at the licenses carefully. Production deployments will require a support agreement which is sold on Sun systems only." Link to full text here: <http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+ogb/OGB+Minutes+Feb +23+2010> As you were there, it would have been much appreciated if you'd have confirmed the question of no support for either OpenSolaris nor Solaris 10 on non Sun Hardware. I am still waiting to hear back on this question from two different Oracle parties on the matter since last Monday and we're still awaiting "investigation" on this page: <http://wikis.sun.com/display/SunSolve/How+Entitlement +Works?focusedCommentId=199106721#comment-199106721> But I guess at this juncture we can now conclude that we've officially been screwed, blued, and tattooed. I expected as much from Oracle but rather than overreacting thought I'd invest the requisite effort to get details from the powers that be. -- Ken Gunderson <[email protected]> _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
