On 07/04/2010 01:54, bsd wrote:
You can read many things into words and statements, but if you read carefully
how Oracle responds to questions about Solaris and OpenSolaris, you can only
wonder what will happen once the dust settles.
"Oracle is investing more in Solaris than Sun did prior to the acquisition, and will
continue to contribute technologies to OpenSolaris, as Oracle already does for many other
open source projects."
Oracle is investing more in Solaris... then mentions they will contribute
technologies to OpenSolaris. To me this clearly illustrates that Oracle is
going to be developing Solaris independent of OpenSolaris, meaning OpenSolaris
isn't just a development project for Solaris. Especially given this:
It seems you don't understand how Solaris is being developed.
Your conclusion here doesn't really make any sense.
"Oracle CEO Larry Ellison said at then end of January that Solaris would become
Oracle's enterprise operating system for SPARC-based systems and for clusters."
Oracle intends to use Solaris for SPARC and clusters. OpenSolaris wasn't
developed for SPARC, but rather x86. This is also indicative that Oracle
intends to develop Solaris independently of OpenSolaris and that OpenSolaris
isn't a development project for Solaris.
So you claim you've been involved with Open Solris since its inception
(care to reveal your true name?) yet you don't know that it always has
been developed for both SPARC and x86? Then the Indiana distribution
(currently known as OpenSolaris distribution) has initially been
packaged and delivered for x86 systems as it's main target audience were
developers/sysadmin/etc. who want an access to latest&greatest
technologies and almost all of them have access to x86 (laptop, pc, ...)
and not necessarily SPARC. Then when time was right the OS distribution
has started to be provided for SPARC as well (before Oracle acquisition).
The Open Solaris as the Solaris Next in-development (source code) has
always been developed both for SPARC and x86 and has always been
provided in some form for both architectures (SXCE, Indiana, ...).
'"Oracle will ensure customers running OpenSolaris have an option for support on
Oracle Sun Systems where it's required, though given the very little sales here, this
will not be something we expect many customers to deploy going forward," Roberts
said.'
OpenSolaris support will be available, but only on hardware purchased from
Oracle, and it seems if they determine it's required.
I'm not sure if it's been decided yet. So we have to wait and see.
"It's a change we're still getting use to, though hopefully many of the public
statements are very clear that Solaris is our now No. 1 enterprise OS and we will
increase investment. We won't be able to talk about specific features, but the future is
very bright."
Again, Solaris is our number 1 enterprise OS. Yes, for SPARC hardware, which
is where the investments will be made. OpenSolaris isn't their enterprise OS
and isn't for SPARC hardware, so I don't see much investment by Oracle.
Open Solaris runs both on SPARC and x86.
And yes, Solairs has been the #1 enterprise OS and not Open Solaris -
both for Sun and now Oracle.
Nothing new here and nothing really surprising. To some degree it's a
definition of enterprise - stable and proven code and not the bleeding
edge. It's the same with other operating systems - RedHat does not
consider Fedora it's enterprise offering but it doesn't stop customers
deploying it in live when/if it makes sense. The same is with Open Solaris.
Personally, I don't see the commitment to OpenSolaris by Oracle.
Because judging from your emails I believe you don't want to see the
commitment no matter what.
It doesn't make sense for them to invest heavily in developing an enterprise
Solaris for SPARC while simultaneously investing substantially in OpenSolaris,
which won't offer them any signifcant return on investments.
No, it wouldn't make sense - fortunately Sun/Oracle doesn't work the way
you think it does.
I'm not saying that Oracle does a great job right now about
communicating its plans - it doesn't.
Also I'm not saying that there aren't any concerns - there are and we
have to wait and see and complain so maybe Oracle will notice.
But the conclusions you presented here seem to have little if anything
to do with reality.
--
Robert Milkowski
http://milek.blogspot.com
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