Am 10 Apr 2010 um 15:48 schrieb Edward Ned Harvey:

You should
also discover some obstacle to purchasing it, even if you want to. Because they want you to buy it on Sun hardware, or from a huge name reseller, such as Dell or HP or IBM. Solaris 10 is also known as SunOS 5.10. Opensolaris is free. It is also known as SunOS 5.11. Some day, we don't know when,
opensolaris should become Solaris 11.

I think the confusion on the first point is that Oracle has two support offerings for Solaris: there's "systems" support (Premier Support for Systems), when you want to buy a complete stack from Oracle and get all your support from them, vs. OS support (Premier Support for Operating Systems), which allows you to get support for the OS alone. When I read the docs about supporting offering, they seem to mention full-stack support first, but the section about OS support mentions both OpenSolaris and Solaris. As best as I can read, the clause about unsupported hardware simply means that you can't use software entitlements from a full systems agreement on any hardware outside that agreement, requiring such coverage to be sorted separately. I don't think is as insidious as some of the implications I've taken from other posts to this list, although it does seem clear that Oracle markets the full systems package more aggressively and is likely to have prepared sales and account staff far more thoroughly on how to sell that offering.

It's not that OpenSolaris will *ever* become Solaris 11 per se. Parts of OpenSolaris have been and are backported to Solaris 10, a practice that will almost certainly shift to the "current" Solaris release when a new major release is made. There will be additional development that happens parallel to the OpenSolaris community that render Solaris 11, while OpenSolaris moves on as the development branch of what comes after that Solaris-wise, which will at some point be given a 5.12 designation or equivalent even before there's a Solaris 12 or what have you. OpenSolaris is thus the working-product distribution built from the community-maintained codebase and the binary elements that are offered whilst replacements from CDDL sources are mooted or are limited to binary distribution for some of the same reasons that elements of the Linux codebase contains binary blobs for which there is no community-licensed source. If you want a source code license for Solaris 10 (I don't believe that will include access to all of the code otherwise limited to binary distribution, as there are some elements that Sun wouldn't necessarily have the right to redistribute as cross-licensed source), that can be arranged separately. If you don't like an OS with binary blobs, OpenBSD is about the only game in town that tries to be that open.

One major difference between OpenSolaris and Solaris that received little comment is in how they are delivered: much more of the work on installation and providing an immediately usable product has been focused on OpenSolaris. You might find that OpenSolaris and Solaris 10 deliver many of the same capabilities on paper, but their packaging and integration into the build tends to be more extensive and polished under OpenSolaris than Solaris 10, which is built more to the taste of people with some longer-term Solaris exposure and expertise. On the other hand, some of the value-added Solaris 10 products can be licensed for commercial use from the media kit, whereas it's rather hard at the moment to get a contract signed for commercial support of OpenSolaris, at least to judge from some posts to this list.

Unless you're planning to buy the full systems support package for a high-volume deployment running OpenSolaris, I wouldn't expect the sales people to know yet how to sell you support. They sell basic Enterprise Linux support subscriptions for € 76.90 a year, so I expect they'll be willing to sell you some version of Solaris for a price not far off that, although possibly not rushing to focus on that when they're likely trying to produce strong sales bookings in the quarter after the acquisition, thus demonstrating retention of valuable large customers, that don't get people straight to second-guessing that decision. I'm not saying they're right (or wrong) to organise behind big-ticket sales before volume markets, but I am saying that it's the sort of thing you'd expect from a large publicly-held technology concern that's happy to be run by the same sort of financial analysts who encourage valuation based on the truth told by your Form 10-Q (i.e. did you make your target 65%+ margins again and are there any indications that you won't continue to do so?).
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