Svein,
On 22.04.2010 02:27, Alan Hargreaves wrote:
You miss the point. This is a discussion list about OpenSolaris. Not
about a Microsoft Office Plugins. Not about Solaris. Not about Solaris
patches. The only reason to post this stuff (even without comment) would
be to sow FUD or dissention.
Or to make people aware of a quite disturbing pattern.
The "quite disturbing pattern"s are currently only in people's brains
and AlanH's .sig.
Like many here, I have high hopes for OpenSolaris remaining the
absolutely best alternative out there for many tasks, but the pattern of
changes Oracle are making is rather disturbing. Especially combined with
the total lack of communication skills.
This once again comes back to the definition of OpenSolaris. In the
"distro" connotation, it is an alternative (maybe not the best) for
certain environments. But OpenSolaris (the codebase) indeed remains the
best codebase that currently exists for an operating environment.
Currently the only example of Oracle's "pattern of changes" with regards
to OpenSolaris is that no alcohol is allowed at LOSUG meetings any longer.
I do however agree that a statement from Oracle on the "future" of
OpenSolaris is needed. but given the fact that it is likely to be
couched in vagaries, obfuscation, legalese, and plain non-committal
rhetoric, it will not provide us with any feelgood factor.
<joke alert>
Given their communication skills, I'd be worried about networking
software from them...
</joke alert>
Poor joke - the networking infrastructure software will still be crafted
by the uber-talented Sun engineers that we know and love.
Quite honestly I'm getting sick of seeing it.
Then forward the worrying upwards in the system you now are part of, and
let the managers sort things out (usually by escalating it to someone
who actually have the authority to do something about the actual
problem: Lack of communications).
Won't work internally. Or at least might increase the individual's
RIF-factor ;-) Head firmly below the parapet for all Sun staff at the
moment (even those with an @oracle.com email address).
I have been emailing LarryE regularly for some time now; and have
received no response whatsoever from his Communications team. This was
not the case with Jonathan Schwartz - I met him personally once,
discussed LOSUG with him (when I was the Chair) for 4 minutes of his
time (I felt honoured), and he consented to a video linkup to a LOSUG
meeting. I had further discussions with his Communications team; but
sadly the video thing never happened. It's all about (corporate)
approachability - and I agree that Oracle is not reaching the mark yet.
Killing the conversation isn't the solution.
There was never an advocation to "kill" any conversation. Just to ensure
that the conversation is focused to the correct topic for the venue
within which it is taking place. Case in point "osol-discuss" is for
discussions on OpenSolaris - not Solaris 10, not Solaris 9, and
_definitely_ not Solaris 8 (which has happened recently).
Regards... Sean.
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