--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Erik Trimble <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Erik Trimble <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Someone please tell me I'm wrong > To: > Cc: "os-discuss Discuss" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 9:26 AM > Calum Benson wrote: > > On 8 May 2010, at 13:35, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > > > > > >> Oracle is just big company where every decision > takes years and yes, they don't care so much about fans. > >> > > > > Actually, if there's one thing I've noticed since I > became an Oracle employee, it's that they generally make > decisions quicker than Sun did. > > > > Cheeri, > > Calum. > > > > > Wellllllll, let's not guzzle the Kool Aid quite so much, > there, Calum. > > Of course, I think we're comparing a Glacier with a Lava > flow, and not just in speed, either. > > > That said, there's about as much chance of Oracle nixing > Solaris as they would Java - fundamentally, it's what they > bought the company for. Frankly, I would > see Oracle Mgmt off the entire rest of the Sun long before I > see them killing off either Java or Solaris. There's simply > too much money (to be made) in both to kill such golden > geese. > > Of course, I expect that the path both Solaris and Java > take will look different than what Sun had mapped out. > Exactly how different - and in what ways - is of course what > all this hub-bub is about. > > And one last thing: anyone outside of > Oracle Sr. Management (or anyone Sr. Management has > authorized to speak officially on it's behalf, e.g. Oracle > Sales) that says /ANYTHING/ about the actual > direction of Solaris, is either lying to you, pulling it out > of their ass, engaging in wishful thinking, or has another > agenda. The only people who Truly Know (tm) have > said what they've said, and we're stuck waiting for them to > clarify it and fill in the blanks for us. > > > > And, that last section applies to me, too. I'm not > Oracle Sr. Management, and I'm certainly not authorized to > speak on their behalf. So, I must be a liar, a cheat, > or a dreamer, right? <wink> > > -- Erik Trimble Well... Oracle did say what they intended to do with Solaris, Sun legacy products, support plans, and other tales - but that is subject to change like anything else in the world. Where is this documented? Ok, there was a bunch of stuff posted on the Oracle website on presentations Oracle was providing at city tours a few months ago. Oracle talked about Sun's hardware, new products lines, open source review (like Glassfish, DS, etc). Not everyone was up to speed on many things - but hey, Oracle has a lot of knobs to grab around Sun's legacy technologies - give them a break! All this 'crap' really is misleading on corporate secrecy because that level of FUD would undermine many government/VAR/ISP/OEM types that have large deployments of Solaris hardware/software. There are times in discussions (i.e. IRC/forums/etc) where an engineer or someone might pass on what they heard (I've done it myself) based on break/fix analysis or hearsay - but the official word comes from some Oracle "manager" or Oracle gate-keeper, not a third-party. Plain and simple. Call an Oracle Sales Rep otherwise - if just to get that 'warm and fuzzy' answer. As for what is in Oracle Solaris "11", that is just a whiteboard to the outside world. For a few of us, Glynn Foster scribbled out these notes a few months ago for OpenSolaris 2010.03: http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-03/ But that does not mean these features will end up in Oracle Solaris 11 or will end up in some enhanced 'value-add' form. The OpenSolaris project is just a wunderfunk of ideas and subprojects. There are closed source binaries and applications that can find their way into the distribution of Oracle Solaris. Today, we have Oracle Solaris 10, the larger SXCE (now defunct), or OSOL-DEV_b134. I'd think for many people that is good enough for many projects. As for speculating on Oracle Solaris 11, a few things can be put on Oracle Solaris 10 until that big release day happens. Just wait and be patient. Maybe we'll be on GNOME 3.0 for the next release by then...who knows? Just enjoy the ride and stop kicking the tires.... ~ Ken Mays _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
