> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Bart Smaalders
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As many of us have stated, the next release of
> Solaris will be based on the
> > work done in OpenSolaris.
> 
> But will it still be recognizable as Solaris? Or is
> it going to be
> just another Linux clone, albeit with a different
> kernel?

Well I'm going to use gut feeling and total ignorance to make my own idle 
speculation about Oracle's plans!
I think the reason Oracle prefers to use the name "Solaris" instead of 
"OpenSolaris" is *not* because they want to kill off OpenSolaris but simply 
because they recognise the mistake Sun made in giving the name OpenSolaris to a 
closed OS distribution that is based on the open-source kernel of the same 
name. However, Oracle now has to face the same decision that Sun would have had 
to if they were still here: what to do with the incompatibility between Solaris 
10 and OpenSolaris, especially packaging. Oracle knows that their real market 
is 'big iron Unix', and their customers will have sysadmins who spent years 
refining their tools and scripts to automate the roll-out of patches and 
updates across a range of Sparcs and possibly some x86s, including zones, 
legacy Solaris 8/9 (or S10 containers thereof) and images for diskless clients. 
This is all based on SVR4 packaging, and I think IPS is frankly years away from 
being sufficiently enterprise-ready to do the same. Oracle can cont
 inue back-porting features from OpenSolaris to Solaris 10, but for the next 
version of Solaris, this back-porting activity is unsustainable.

I think the only real option is to make a clean break. The next version might 
well be called Solaris 11 (SunOS 5.11), but there probably won't be an upgrade 
path from SVR4-based Solaris 10 to IPS-based Solaris 11. Perhaps even the 
application binary compatibility guarantee will end at Solaris 10. Oracle will 
probably continue Sun's long tradition of providing very long term support and 
updates for 'legacy' Solaris 10 systems, but Solaris 11 will probably be 
released for new installs only.

The question is whether Solaris 11 will remain a separate product or will be a 
re-branding of the OpenSolaris distro. The latter case would imply that the 
free OpenSolaris distro would be pulled and repackaged under the "90-day free 
trial terms" that Solaris 10 is under, but given that Red Hat has Fedora and 
Novell has OpenSuse, there is plenty of precedent for Oracle to go on 
sustaining the free OpenSolaris distro as a 'preview' of Solaris 11 features 
(Solaris 11 will probably continue to have Sun tools first in the PATH, whilst 
OpenSolaris would continue to have GNU tools first). However,  just like Red 
Hat doesn't want to provide commercial support for both RHEL and Fedora, I 
don't think Oracle will continue with the commercial support option for the 
OpenSolaris distro, but try to migrate those customers to Solaris 11, which 
implies that they have to be careful not to let OpenSolaris and the Zpool/ZFS 
version to get too far ahead of the starting point for Solaris 11. Maybe
 , continuing this line of thought, the reason for the delay in OpenSolaris 
2010.?? release is because they are also working on synchronising the feature 
set with Solaris 11 and running lots of tests to confirm that customers on 
OpenSolaris support contracts will be able to migrate successfully to Solaris 
11.
But hey, what do I know, maybe they're spending all the time unpicking the mess 
after a global s/Sun/Oracle/g patch went badly wrong, e.g.
make: oraclecc compiler not found!

Graham
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