> Joerg (et.al.)
>
> This all sounds like crying over spilt milk, as they say.  Your
> arguments seem to be of the form "THEY didn't need to move away from
> SVr4 packages; instead THEY could have..." rather than "here's what
> SVr4 packages do that IPS doesn't".  That is, your gripe seems to be
> that you weren't consulted, that your ideas weren't incorporated, the
> project went in directions you wouldn't have gone, and that you do not
> know what problems it is solving - none of which are terribly
> convincing arguments in an open source community...
>
> The fact of the matter is that nobody *DID* step up and
> fix/redo/replace/improve the SVr4 packaging stuff.  Instead, a group
> of somebodies went off and built a better-for-them mousetrap to
> replace SVr4 packaging.  While even I have quibbles about *HOW* it was
> done, the fact remains that *WHAT* they did is very good; it is a
> clear and (to me) overwhelmingly better system that SVr4 packaging was
> - or ever could be, given SVr4 packaging's inherent flaws and
> malformed, in-the-field package metadata.  In *theory*, with effort
> that never materialized, SVr4 packaging coulda, woulda, shoulda...  It
> didn't.
>
> But. as I said before, none of this really matters if we don't even
> have a community distro that can be built and installed!  If you can't
> even boot the OS, can't even get to a prompt, then who the hell cares
> about what kind of packaging system is there *THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN
> USE*?
>
> Let's get the basics working first, and be as open as we can towards others.
>
>  -John

+1. Couldn't agree more.
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