You (Edward Ned Harvey) wrote:
> > From: Alan Coopersmith [mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:56 PM
> > 
> > Edward Ned Harvey wrote
> > > Was java anything other than a money pit for sun to dump cash into?
> > Did
> > > anybody ever pay for it?
> > 
> > Yes - for instance, all the cell phone makers who paid Sun to license
> > Java for their cell phones.
> 
> It was dumb of me to assume nobody pays for java - just as it is sometimes 
> dumb when people assume nobody pays for solaris.
> 
> Out of curiosity (and I know this is OT) ... Java is free to use, develop on, 
> and distribute.  What do people pay for?  
> 
> When a cell phone mfgr pays for java, what are they using, that wasn't 
> available for free?
> 
> Thanks for the enlightenment, sorry for the ignorance...

I've never read the license terms, but I do assume, that (in my simple words)
the "re-distribution" of the JVM is not for free...

   Matthias
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