Well I don't think Xen is a good enough hypervisor anyways. I would rather see 
Oracle come up with something better. There are too many Xen implementations 
and 
not enough features to differentiate them other than GUI's. Even Red Hat has 
realized this and are pushing their KVM agenda. And sadly when people talk 
about 
virtualization on x86, it's always a VMware discussion with Citrix Xen and MS 
Hyper-V looked at as oddball alternatives. Red Hat, Oracle, Novell, etc aren't 
even in the discussion.

The advantage that Oracle has with OVM on x86 and SPARC is that they have a 
whole application stack, management tools, and even appliances (Exadata, 
Exalogic) built around them. So I think it'll become a more compelling solution 
in the long run, especially when Oracle gets the OVM for SPARC under its 
management tools. VMware isn't a complete solution and people spend millions on 
all the stuff that goes around it before they even get to look at their 
application and automation requirements.

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Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant
Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Matthias Pfützner <matth...@pfuetzner.de>
To: Joerg Schilling <joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: bderzhav...@yahoo.com; l...@prgmr.com; xen-disc...@opensolaris.org; 
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 11:53:25 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] [xen-discuss] XEN on OpenIndiana

Du (Joerg Schilling) schreibst:
> Matthias Pfützner <matth...@pfuetzner.de> wrote:
> 
> > It's been stated already: xVM is dead in Solaris (no dom0 in Solaris!), the
> > "replacement" is OVM... Which is FREE and has a way better GUI!
> 
> Isn't this a Linux based product?

Yes, it is... So, where's the problem? (I know, where the problem is, but...)

PSARC/2010/250 EOF of Solaris xVM dom0 from End of June 2010

We've been through this a couple times:

If you want "live-migration" you need NO LOCAL disks, therefore the ZFS
advantages are in the net-based storage box

DTrace doesn't add any advantage, as the xVM dtrace integration is
ASYNCHRONOUS, and doesn't guarantee the arrival of all messages from the
Xen-part

Which leaves COMSTAR, yes, that's sad.

But: OVM does already provide tons of templates (preconfigured images with
whole app stacks), and, as mentioned, a way better GUI...

So, from a business point of view, for DCs, that's the right decision...

Which also implies, that inside Sun/Oracle no one any longer takes care of the
updating of the Xen dom0 port/part.

        Matthias

> Jörg
> 
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