Fwiw, you *can* get support from Sun for OpenSolaris in production  
environments now.  Also I think the new 7000-series appliances are  
based on OpenSolaris.

Look at the feature sets of both releases and pick the one that's the  
best match.  I know one admin who moved to OpenSolaris for his iSCSI  
filers due to a bug not yet fixed in 'regular' Solaris.



On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Drew Tomlinson <drew at mykitchentable.net>  
wrote:

> Bryan Allen wrote:
>> +-- 
>> --- 
>> --- 
>> --- 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> | On 2009-04-10 21:02:32, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>> |
>> | I'm a FreeBSD guy but somewhat recently began work at a Solaris  
>> shop.
>> | We're running mostly Solaris 8 and 9 but even still have Solaris  
>> 6 & 7
>> | on some servers.  Machines are not patched as they should be.   
>> Thus I'd
>> | like to begin upgrading.
>> |
>> | I've fiddled with Solaris 10 a bit but find difficulty with the  
>> whole
>> | package system for software and patches.  Coming from FreeBSD,  
>> I'm used
>> | to what its call a "ports" system which is basically a collection  
>> of
>> | shell scripts that downloads source and then compiles.  Compile  
>> time
>> | options can be set so software is compiled with desired options.   
>> It
>> | also pulls in and builds any dependencies.  From an admin  
>> perspective,
>> | all one has to do is type "portupgrade" with appropriate options  
>> and the
>> | system takes care of the rest.
>>
>> Use NetBSD's pkgsrc. For the vast majority of non-GUI apps, you  
>> won't have a
>> problem.
>>
>> I've been running a Solaris 10 shop for two years (migrating from  
>> Linux), and
>> haven't run into a package I couldn't get built with pkgsrc on it.
>>
>> Update 6 has zfsroot, which makes Live Upgrade (and thus patching)  
>> much less of
>> a doom.
>>
>> You also probably want to use Martin Paul's pca for patching  
>> purposes.
>>
>
> Thanks for your reply.  I'll Google these to learn more.  Do you have
> any suggestions for a good forum or mailing list where I can get  
> Solaris
> 10 help?
>
>> | Thus I am interested in OpenSolaris and its IPS package system.  It
>> | appears that it provides similar function to package managers  
>> from the
>> | Linux world such as rpm, yum, and apt-get.  I am also encouraged  
>> by this
>> | OpenSolaris help list to guide me along the way.  I have not  
>> found any
>> | such reliable list or forum for Solaris.
>> |
>> | So, is OpenSolaris a viable OS for a production shop?  It would
>> | basically host common unix services such as Apache, PHP, MySQL,  
>> Samba,
>> | DNS, DHCP, LDAP, etc.  Are SPARC and x86 processor support equally
>> | stable?  Thoughts, opinions, nudges to appropriate links, etc. all
>> | appreciated.
>>
>> I would argue no. At the very least, not until the Automated  
>> Installer project
>> gets more mature. Ditto sparse zones. Some other stuff. It depends  
>> on your
>> expectations and requirements, but I'll be sticking with Solaris 10  
>> for my
>> production systems.
>>
>
> I was afraid of this...  :)
>
>> That said: The opensolaris.org infrastructure all runs on  
>> OpenSolaris (from
>> what I understand); one of their people is giving a talk at OSCON  
>> this year
>> about it. Could be interesting.
>>
> Thanks for your help.  I really appreciate it!
>
> Drew
>
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