Thanks Glenn....

Well, I just thought that perhaps the bug/s were because of something that 
might have installed funny on my machine versus being a 130 specific bug...I am 
running 130 right now in virtualbox but did not upgrade from 111. This was 
running from a ISO....This is also a different machine too....

I will run the Thunderbird question past the other forum but not sure about the 
ICE Authority stuff though....Maybe I should have just stuck with my nice 
stable 111b environment but I guess you don't learn that way! Thanks.
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