On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Tateru Nino <tateru.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, I'm starting to see now. Developers are only subject to the TPV policy > if they want to be listed in the directory. Users are subject to the policy > should they choose to use a TPV to connect to a Linden-operated grid, rather > than an alternative (like OpenSim) > > It's getting better, isn't it, logic is finally creeping in. :-) Joe's two posts above are the first to cleanly separate developers, viewers and users connecting to SL, and to discuss each one separately in their individual spheres without conflating them. If Joe were to write the whole TPV, we could probably all go home early. ;-) > Makes sense, but that would really mean that the TPV policies should be a > part of the Terms of Service, wouldn't it> Doesn't make much sense to have > them separated. > > Yes, you're right. Since the only thing that is regulated is the behavior of viewers within SL, it's all about Terms of Service. Indeed, a document imposing restrictions on something outside of LL's service makes no sense at all anyway, as well as wreaking havoc with GPLv2's clause 6. Joe has unpicked what was previously a bundle of spaghetti and made it comprehensible. [Kudos for that!] We're not home yet though. Apparently the wishes and rights of open-license content creators are going to be ignored and dismissed. This is unnecessary, unconscionable, and quite possibly illegal. And it's simply not right either. Before planting the mast at that spot, I suggest a little extra thought, because this is very bad on multiple fronts, and any gains that LL thinks it might make from it will probably be less than the damage. And the cost of doing The Right Thing is almost nil, because these legal rights are being exercised already, and all that's missing is a corresponding clause in TPV and FAQ. Morgaine. ======================================== On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Tateru Nino <tateru.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah, I'm starting to see now. Developers are only subject to the TPV policy > if they want to be listed in the directory. Users are subject to the policy > should they choose to use a TPV to connect to a Linden-operated grid, rather > than an alternative (like OpenSim) > > Makes sense, but that would really mean that the TPV policies should be a > part of the Terms of Service, wouldn't it> Doesn't make much sense to have > them separated. > > > On 1/03/2010 12:36 PM, Joe Linden wrote: > > TPV developers may choose to list their viewers in the Directory for the > value of receiving a wider awareness than they may be able to create > themselves, or not. That's entirely up to the developer. All viewers that > connect to the SL grids will need to abide by the TPV Policy regardless of > their choice to list in the Directory. > > And, since we're only talking about conditions that apply when a TPV > connects to Linden Lab's grid(s), we reserve the right to add, subtract, or > otherwise modify those conditions at any point in the future. > > -- joe > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Morgaine > <morgaine.din...@googlemail.com>wrote: > >> >> ... Since it's just promotion, TPV developers are free to ignore it when >> they excel on features and don't need promotion, and of course you will >> never make promotion mandatory. >> >> Morgaine. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges > > > -- > Tateru Ninohttp://dwellonit.taterunino.net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges >
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