As I and others wrote, you may want to change to a neutral platform that does
not require one to clickwrap a policy that is to be discussed.
The Betagrid would be such an option, and I assume all involved developers
have accounts old enough to be in the database.
Please also move away from that voice plan. Many people are not fluent in
English but can read and write.
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Miller
To: Boy Lane
Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV
Boy,
So it's sounds like you won't be able to join me. Sorry to hear that.
-- joe
Boy Lane wrote:
Joe,
You probably did not read the terms I have to agree upon login yourself.
Otherwise you'd have found a better answer to the concern raised.
It is not about time or any dates of policies to become effective. It is
about acceptance of unacceptable terms.
I can not accept the new ToS without accepting TPV, and the latter was the
one you said you would like to discuss? You don't create facts in the first
place to eventually negotiate them later. TPV is unacceptaple and if you are
really interested in an open and unhindered discussion you should find a
discussion medium that allows for this. The beta grid would be such an option.
Boy
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Linden
To: Boy Lane
Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV
Of course you can. The ToS presented at login clearly states it becomes
effective on 4/30. In the meantime, you continue to use the service under the
terms of the prior ToS which doesn't contain the TPV provisions. If one has
issues with the prior ToS agreement, and hasn't previously accepted those
terms, then I agree, this meeting isn't for you.
-- joe
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Boy Lane <boy.l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Joe.
Unfortunately one can not attend without going inworld and accepting
ToS/TPV in the first place.
----- Original Message ----- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:24:57 -0700
From: Joe Linden <j...@lindenlab.com>
Subject: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV
next Tuesday (4/13)
To: OpenSource-Dev <opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com>
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Hello, all. I've been reading the ongoing commentary here, on various
blogs, irc, and in-world groups about the recently introduced Third
Party
Viewer Policy and Directory and I'd like to host an "office hour" or
informal brown bag to make the conversation a little more synchronous
for
those who are interested. I plan to hold three of these over the next
couple of weeks, at times that might be friendlier for some than
others, but
the first one will happen next Tuesday, 4/13 at noon PDT. I'd like to
address questions about the intent of the policy, how we will be
using the
Directory going forward, and see if I can gather the specific
concerns that
have been raised by the community over the past several weeks. It'll
be an
informal Q&A session, held in voice, at this location:
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Linden%20Estate%20Services/229/230/29
No RSVP needed, and feel free to rebroadcast the invite to others you
think
would benefit from open dialog around the subject.
I hope to see many of you there next week.
-- Joe
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