On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Vadim Savchuk wrote:

> On 01/25/2011 02:19 PM, Trilo Byte wrote:
>> Aside from not being very useful in its current state (not being able to 
>> save/load sidebar, local chat text entry width, or save/load build menu 
>> floater), build 219546 (mac client) caused an entire system crash on exit, 
>> resulting in loss of data in other applications.
> Have you experienced such crashes with other builds?
No.  

Early builds of the Mesh Project Viewer experienced crash on exit (CTS-399) but 
that's long since been resolved and never caused a system crash/loss of data.  
The Viewer is known to crash spectacularly (causing entire system crash with 
loss of data in other applications) mid-session on Macs with ATI graphics if 
you try to enable shadows/deferred rendering, but the system I'm using doesn't 
have an ATI graphics card in it, and I made no graphics settings changes during 
the session. Machine was running OSX 10.6 for what that's worth.

>> 
>> The sidebar, local chat entry box, and builder's menu are all essential 
>> parts of the SL user interface.  If comments in the jira are to be believed 
>> and saving the sidebar isn't essential, then you're forcing users to do 
>> something that's not obvious or intuitive (forcing them to take the extra 
>> step of tearing off/positioning a sidebar tab), and making a strong case for 
>> the need to do away with the sidebar altogether.
> I didn't say it was not essential. I said that  it was not originally 
> required by the task description and thus should not prevent PO from 
> approving the first-pass implementation (which will of course be improved by 
> further changes).
So long as those elements are working by the time it makes it as far as beta, 
that should be fine.  Just that as tested, so few UI elements were saved/loaded 
it didn't appear to be of much value (at least in the few basic/common 
scenarios I tested.

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