On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:22:50PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Eric Murray wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 01:28:02AM +0800, Ng Pheng Siong wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 01:16:31PM -0800, Eric Murray wrote:
> > > > Either don't connect from a non-SSL client, or connect and negotiate
> > > > when to start SSL.  The former is prefered.
> > >
> > > Eh? I'd imagine "the latter is preferred"?
> > 
> > My reasoning is that an active attacker could change the bytes in
> > the insecure protocol to silently prevent it from negotiating to SSL.
> > If your protocol only works under SSL, then that's not possible.
> 
> The IETF doesn't agree.

I know.  I'm was a co-author of an IETF draft (ftp-ssl) for adding
SSL inside FTP.  I think that approach makes sense for adding
SSL to existing protocols.  

However the original poster was talking about a not-standard custom
protocol.  For that sort of thing it's simpler to do everything inside SSL.

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  Eric Murray           Consulting Security Architect         SecureDesign LLC
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