At 10:00 AM 12/11/02 +0100, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 11
Dec 2002 08:56:19 +0000, Bertie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>bertie> Yep, this solution works if you are an application developer
>bertie> wanting to use chil engine. This is not much help if you are
>bertie> say an Apache user who wanted to use an nCipher HSM to protect
>bertie> their Apache keys - They will get your error message but won't
>bertie> be able to fix the problem, they will phone nCipher support
>bertie> and we'll end up giving them a patch to apply.
>
>And I assume application author will be notified (for what we
>discussed, that would be the Apache team and Ralf (author of mod_ssl),
>right?), or are you skipping that kind of step?

No absolutely not, I guess the issue is how many commonly used
multithreaded openssl apps are there out there that will need to be
notified, and how responsive are they. I don't really know the answer to
this but if it is just Apache2 then helping Apache2 implement the dynlock
upcalls is a reasonable solution.

>We could ask Ralf to take a peek at that as soon as possible and make
>sure dynamic lock callbacks are provided.  He *is* part of the OpenSSL
>dev team, after all...

That's definitely useful, I would be interested to know how Ralf get's on
implementing the dynlock upcalls in mod_ssl without having a context in
dynlock_create_upcall, I couldn't see a nice way to do it, but then I am
not very familiar with the apache code.

>We still have the problem with older versions of the applications, but
>I presume that if the users can upgrade OpenSSL, they can also upgrade
>other parts of the system...  Is that too tough a presumption?

No, we can't escape this problem, there is no way that applications using
the 0.9.6 API can hope to make use of the chil engine.

Bertie

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