In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:33:01 +0100, "Dr. Stephen 
Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

steve> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
steve> 
steve> > Yesterday, people at Infrasec Sweden AB (http://www.infrasec.se/) and
steve> > me spent the better part of the day tracing through a program that
steve> > uses SSL with an nCipher box and figuring out what exactly made about
steve> > every 15th SSL_accept stall for half a second.  We guessed there was
steve> > something happening with creating session keys, so we took a closer
steve> > look at random number generation, and lo and behold, at every stall,
steve> > we saw RAND_bytes stall as well (about .4 s).
steve> > 
steve> > The stall might not be visible if it wasn't for a multithreaded server
steve> > that gets harrassed with a ton of requests (all without any reusable
steve> > information) per second.  Still, the stalls we saw were very clear
steve> > performance degradations.
steve> > 
steve> > So, an idea could be, at least for the hw_ncipher.c/e_ncipher.c code
steve> > to use the nCipher RNG only to seed the internal OpenSSL pool.  We
steve> > made a hack yesterday that gave exactly that effect, and it gave much
steve> > better performance than the .5s stalls about every 15th request :).
steve> > 
steve> > Thoughts?
steve> > 
steve> 
steve> Was the application doing this because it set the nCipher box to be the
steve> default RNG or was it some automatic behaviour when an nCipher box was
steve> detected?

It was a result of 'ENGINE *e = ENGINE_by_id("chil")' followed by
'ENGINE_set_default(e,ENGINE_METHOD_ALL)'.

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