In message <12031409093019_20200...@antinode.info> on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:09:30 
-0500 (CDT), "Steven M. Schweda" <s...@antinode.info> said:

sms> From: Richard Levitte <rich...@levitte.org>
sms> 
sms> > Of course not...  it should be as you mentioned...
sms> > [...]
sms> 
sms>    I was thinking more like:
sms> 
sms> #if !defined(OPENSSL_NO_JPAKE) && !defined(OPENSSL_NO_PSK)
sms>    if (jpake_secret)
sms>            {
sms>            if (psk_key)
sms>                    {
sms>                    BIO_printf(bio_err,
sms>                               "Can't use JPAKE and PSK together\n");
sms>                    goto end;
sms>                    }
sms>            psk_identity = "JPAKE";
sms> 
sms>            if (cipher)
sms>                    {
sms>                    if (strcmp( cipher, "PSK"))
sms>                            {
sms>                            BIO_printf(bio_err,
sms>                             "JPAKE sets cipher to PSK\n");
sms>                            goto end;
sms>                            }
sms>                    }
sms>            else
sms>                    {
sms>                    cipher = "PSK";
sms>                    }
sms>            }
sms> #endif

That's functionally the same, isn't it?

sms>    But, if I had a fatal message like that, I'd probably want to tell the
sms> victim what the bad "cipher" value was, and that JPAKE demands that it
sms> be "PSK".  Saying "JPAKE sets cipher to PSK", and then dying without
sms> actually setting "cipher" to anything seems misleading to me.

I agree.  However, JPAKE is considered experimental and should not be
enabled by default (that's a mistake in the VMS build, I'm working on
that right now (*)).

sms> > There's a fix in newer OpenSSL versions, with a variant for BeOS R5
sms> > that tries reading stdin in non-blocking mode to see if there's
sms> > anything there...  I'm just now seeing if that can be hijacked for VMS
sms> > as well, in that case I think we're good to go for a back port.
sms> 
sms>    There are VMS-specific terminal things which can be done, but, with
sms> the existing lack of descriptive comments in this code, it's not obvious
sms> (to a non-Windows/non-BEOS programmer) what the desired behavior is in
sms> some of these places.  For that matter, simply defining _functional_
sms> macros, like, say, SELECT_WORKS_ON_FILES, and then defining _those_
sms> based on system type, might help someone who's trying to support a new
sms> system type.

... and writing an internal application library that takes care of the
diversity, yeah I'm with you there.

sms> > The first change (an extra \n) seem to be cosmetic only, or does it
sms> > actually change the function in a crutial way?  Considering you have
sms> > marked it optional, I'll guess that it doesn't?
sms> 
sms>    I know nothing, but in my playing around, the last line I got before
sms> the program got stuck was "---", with the cursor resting over the
sms> left-most "-".  I suspect that the extra "\n" was intended to get the
sms> cursor onto its own line, below the "---" line.  Considering how
sms> differently VMS handles terminal I/O (CR, LF, et c.), I would not bet
sms> that any of this stuff would actually look right (without some extra
sms> effort, anyway).  Of course, I'm not overly fond of programs which wait
sms> for user input without putting out an obvious prompt first, so what's my
sms> opinion worth?

s_client is basically supposed to work like telnet (minus the telnet
features plus the ssl features), so it's not much of a surprise that
it gives you as much a prompt as telnet does.

I find it weird that the particular \n there would fail...  isn't that
something that C library is supposed to deal with properly?  Of
course, s_client uses BIO_printf(), but that one in turn uses the
usual C library...  so it's to wonder why \n wouldn't work in that
particular spot.  I'll have to see if I can reproduce it.

-- 
Richard Levitte                         rich...@levitte.org
                                        http://richard.levitte.org/

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