On 14/06/13 12:31, Ben Laurie wrote:
On 14 June 2013 12:25, Rob Stradling <rob.stradl...@comodo.com> wrote:
<snip>
Ah, so you're criticizing Apple for not being willing to force all OSX
10.8.x users to update to 10.8.4.

No.

If OSX 10.8.x has a mechanism that allows Apple to force updates to be
installed, then I agree.  But my suspicion is that it doesn't, and if so,
Apple's willingness isn't the key issue here.

It has a mechanism to nag you endlessly until you do install updates.
Which makes me wonder why you think people won't install the OS
update?

Safari's User-Agent string reveals the OSX version that it is running on. A few weeks ago I analyzed some webserver logs to get an idea of historical OSX update rates. Based on that analysis, I forecast that the majority of OSX 10.8.x users will install the 10.8.4 update, but that a significant minority won't.

No server administrator will want to deploy ECDHE-ECDSA if it means
breaking
compatibility with even a small fraction of deployed browsers.  Hence why
this patch is, unfortunately, necessary.


What is _necessary_ is that Apple accept responsibility for their errors
:-)


Agreed.

Sadly, the OSX 10.8.4 changelog doesn't even mention the ECDHE-ECDSA bugfix.


Why are we chasing after them cleaning up their messes?


Because we want ECDHE-ECDSA to be deployable.


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