> So, if it’s “mandatory”, then it should be in the default set of ciphers, not
> necessarily the “HIGH” set.
> 
> I’m selecting “HIGH” because I want 128-bit+ ciphers, not a cipher that that
> has subsequently found to be weaker than previously thought.

I used to think that MTI doesn’t mean “Mandatory To Offer”. My codebase must
have it, but my server (and/or client) configuration may explicitly forbid
it. Is there anything wrong with this view?



> --
> -Todd Short
> // [email protected]
> // "One if by land, two if by sea, three if by the Internet."
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Viktor Dukhovni <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Salz, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is RC4 and we don't see that as HIGH. HIGH implies strength, not
>>> MTI-ness.
>> 
>> Now let's not make stuff up:
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246#section-9
>> 
>> 9.  Mandatory Cipher Suites
>> 
>>   In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
>>   otherwise, a TLS-compliant application MUST implement the cipher
>>   suite TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (see Appendix A.5  for the
>>   definition).
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4346#section-9
>> 
>> 9. Mandatory Cipher Suites
>> 
>>   In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
>>   otherwise, a TLS compliant application MUST implement the cipher
>>   suite TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA.
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2246#section-9
>> 
>> 9. Mandatory Cipher Suites
>> 
>>   In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
>>   otherwise, a TLS compliant application MUST implement the cipher
>>   suite TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA.
>> 
>> Since many users enable just HIGH ciphers, they must not exclude the MTI
>> ciphers.
>> 
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>> -- 
>> Viktor.
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