Thanks to Chen and Bodo for the help, but I'm still mystified. I'll try to clarify and reply to the help I received. Actually, openssl seemed to install ok. What I'm really having trouble with is the last step - the Perl interface for SSL. I've actually been fighting with "Crypt-SSLeay-0.07". When I do the "perl Makefile.PL", it asks which ssleay you want to link to. I have no idea what it's asking for - a directory name? a binary name? a full path name?. I've tried linking "local/ssl/openssl" to "local/ssl/ssleay" but that didn't help. I've tried responding "ssleay" and "openssl", and it never finds what it's looking for. Maybe what I should be asking for is - What software *should *I try to install as a perl interface. Since Crypt-SSLeay-0.07 says this in the readme: *** Eric Young is currently implementing his own version of the *** SSLeay modules for Perl. You should not really use this code, *** but instead wait for Eric's version. When it appears *** Crypt-SSLeay will go away. Is Crypt-SSLeay-0.07 what I should be using "now" (I suppose I could wait, but the need is now, so I'd like to try to get this working now if I can). Here's the help I received so far, and what I did with it..... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bodo Moeller) wrote: fgrep ssleay CHANGES will tell you why. I did (assuming openssl-0.9.3a/CHANGES is the file) , and I get this: the util/ssleay.num and util/libeay.num files with any new functions. 1. merge various obsolete readme texts into doc/ssleay.txt *) First cut of a cleanup for apps/. First the `ssleay' program is now named into a single doc/ssleay.txt bundle. This way the information is still when "ssleay" is still not found. *) Added "oid_file" to ssleay.cnf for "ca" and "req" programs. *) Added -a (all) option to "ssleay version" command. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see much here. I read through all through the CHANGES file searching for "ssleay" but I still don't understand the magic that is needed. Chen, Wei-Hon (plasma) wrote: openssl is based on ssleay. Since you installed openssl, there should not be any ssleay. Try find openssl, and make a link named ssleay to it. I did, as I mentioned elsewhere, but that didn't seem to help either. Well, here's exactly where I'm stuck. I'm thinking I shouldn't bother with Crypt-SSLeay, since it seems to be obsolete, so I'll try something else if it exists. Since this is all I have to go on, I keep trying.... Even though I've linked "openssl" to "ssleay" the Makefile.PL doesn't seem to be able to find this. Just for kicks (thinking that that reference above in the "grep in CHANGES" about "still not finding ssleay" was the key) I tried (under openssl..) make -f Makefile.ssl links. This had no effect. cricket:/home/users/chris/soft/perl/modules/Crypt-SSLeay-0.07# perl Makefile.PL Which SSLeay do you want to link against? /usr/local/ssl/bin/ssleay Apparently no SSLeay installation at '/usr/local/ssl/bin/ssleay' Are you sure you got it correct???? Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lssl Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lcrypto Writing Makefile for Crypt::SSLeay However, the reply I gave does actually exist: # ls -l /usr/local/ssl/bin total 1706 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1112 Jun 15 18:31 c_rehash -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 866679 Jun 15 18:31 openssl -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 866679 Jun 15 18:31 ssleay (hard link to openssl) Thanks for any more help you guys can offer. I'm hoping someone out there has actually gotten something to work with perl! Cheers, C -- Christopher Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ZORINco.com __________________________________________________________ Makers of fine microcontroller products - ModCon Microcontroller - SPI-X10 Home Automation controller - MIDI Gizmo - Audio Board - and other fine products and accessories C O N T R O L Y O U R W O R L D ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]