With Rich and Greg offering their recollections, there should be no
need for further confirmation, but I too have had similar conversations with
NSA/BXA reps.
I suggest, however, that this too might possibly change with the new
update in the BXA regs, expected soon.
_Vin
At 08:40 AM 11/21/99 -0500, Gregory Stark wrote:
>Rich,
>
> Was I there? ;)
>
>Greg Stark
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rich Salz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 11:56 PM
>Subject: Re: OpenSSL and Mac OS and export fun
>
>
>> > | I'm no expert but what you are suggesting sounds like "crypto with a
>> > | hole" which has been asked about before and people have been told its
>> > | illegal.
>> >
>> > I'm aware of this rumor, though I've never one heard it said by
>> > someone who had actually discussed it with the government.
>>
>> Okay. While I was an employee of the Open Software Foundation (now
>> known as The Open Group) I participated in several discussions with
>> the NSA (and, sometimes, a large Unix vendor) to talk about source
>> and binary export of DCE, DCE/PKI projects, and DCE-Web. To the
>> best of my recollection, the following is a direct quote from one
>> of the NSA folks:
>> ... we call that crypto-with-a-hole and we don't allow
>> that to be exported
>>
>> I remember the names of many present at one or more of those meetings
>> and could give them were I subpoena'd. :)
>> /r$
>>
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