Of course, be aware that a man-in-the-middle attack is
possible.  A man in the middle could impersonate the
server at any time.

Cheers
Pat

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> 
> Just use Anonymous Diffie-Hellman if you don't need certificates.  All you need
> to do is change the cipher set.
> 
> G.
> 
> "Marco Cunha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/01/2001 11:51:54
> 
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:    (bcc: George Shaw/EMEA/Viewlocity)
> 
> Subject:  RE: On-the-fly self generated certs for network application
> 
> Hi Michael,
>      I think I understand what you mean :). If my answer doesn't make any sense
> then I've obviously missed your point, so please explain it further.
> 
> When I said "we can't have our clients" I meant the people who buy the
> software, although through out the rest of that (and this) email when I say
> "client" I meant the client side of the network layer I'm writing.
> 
> Now then, with that bit out of the way... I'm not authenticating the client
> in any way. Well at least not in the sense that I require the client to have
> a cert installed. I'll try and write a little workflow table in ASCII :
> 
> Client                  Server
> -----------------------------------------------------
>                     Create self-signed cert
> Connect
>                     Accept
> SSL Handshake
>                     SSL Handshake
> Get serv cert
> Validate cert fields
> Start talking
>                     Blah Blah
> SSL Shutdown
>                     SSL Shutdown
> Connection Shutdown
>                     Connection shutdown
> 
> This is what I'd like to do. I don't mind not being able to tell who is on
> the other side for sure, I only require encryption  and not authentication.
> (Not secure authentication at least.). The client will never have a cert.
> 
> I don't take care of the "talking" bit. I just make sure they get a secure
> channel and can exchange messages through whatever network protocols are
> available. It's someone else's trouble to implement the protocol(s) that
> will run over this.
> 
> This is kind of like HTTPS with no client cert but here the server makes him
> own cert instead of requiring the installation of a cert.
> 
> Marco Cunha
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Stroder
> Sent: quinta-feira, 11 de Janeiro de 2001 10:53
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: On-the-fly self generated certs for network application
> 
> [cut]
> 
> There's no authorization without proper authentication.
> 
> Ciao, Michael.
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