I do not know if this is the correct place to post this, but the only error message I see is OpenSSL errors in apache's output. here goes... [Fri Apr 27 18:06:19 2001] [error] mod_ssl: SSL handshake failed (server www.hidden.com:443, client hidden) (OpenSSL library error follows) [Fri Apr 27 18:06:19 2001] [error] OpenSSL: error:0607C084:digital envelope routines:func(124) :reason(132) [Fri Apr 27 18:06:19 2001] [error] OpenSSL: error:0607B086:digital envelope routines:func(123) :reason(134) [Fri Apr 27 18:06:19 2001] [error] OpenSSL: error:1408F071:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:bad mac decode [Hint: Browser still remembered details of a re-created server certificate?] I just built the server with both 9.6 and 9.6a with the same results. Here is what ver of apache It is running w/ mods Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) AuthPG/1.2 PHP/4.0.4pl1 mod_ssl/2.8.2 OpenSSL/0.9.6 thank you Jason ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]