--- "GOLDING,CHARLTON (Non-HP-Corvallis,ex1)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, yeah true, having been burned by Be when working on their OS I
> wish the
> OS would go away, but not really.  I'm glad to hear it might have
> been
> purchased by 3Com (is that true?)  
> 

Somewhat; Be's assets (most of the engineers, BeOS and BeIA) were
purchased by Palm (which is a subsidiary of 3Com), but it's very
unlikely that the latest internal versions of BeOS will ever legally
see the light of day. (There were some leaks in November.)

> 
> If the OS doesn't have good TCP/IP stack support such as a lack of
> getsockopt() it sounds like the OS needs fixed.  I think from what

Yeah, it was fixed in an networking system rewrite that went as far
as closed/private beta tests (and it rocked) but it was never
formally released; even as an open beta.

> I
> remember of the little I ever knew of this, to call getsockopt()
> from some
> stacks you have to be root (a scary concept to me), so perhaps if
> that's the
> case in BeOS your app isn't running as root or doesn't have
> security
> privilege? 

Scary thought but not the problem. Everything in BeOS runs as root,
because the multiuser support was never fully implemented. Everyone
always has full access to BeOS's resources.

> If you feel up to it you might write (ugly proposal
> sorry) your
> own glue to fix the hole in the BeOS networking stack.

<shiver> :)

> I never
> dealt with
> this side of BeOS so can't comment on how hard that might be, my
> interest
> was mostly in video drivers.  This was back when Be had it's own
> box, and
> the code ports related to PowerPC.  (Yeah, some time ago sorry.)
> 

Thanks for the response and thoughts!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zero One [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OpenSSL on BeOS^H^H^H^Hnon-Windows & non-Linux OSes
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Ok, let me amend and repeat this request since there wasn't even so
> much as
> a "No! BeOS is stupid! Go away!" response to my original message.
> (Yes,
> sometimes a flame is better than utter silence ;) ) 
> 
> The biggest problem that I seem to be running into in getting
> OpenSSL to
> compile and generate shared libraries is that the net_server
> version of BeOS
> does not apparently have getsockopt() in it's networking libraries.
> At least
> not in the standard ones that I have. 
> 
> So, my question is now how would one get around this lack of
> functionality
> on any operating system? The reason this is important is because
> one of the
> required files (crypto/bio/b_sock.c) in OpenSSL uses this function,
> precisely once (line 224). I've tried working around it by
> supplying the
> value of errno if there is an error, and I've tried following a
> 1998 era
> suggestion on it, though neither method worked. 
> 
> So, does anyone have suggestions based on lack of a particular
> function as
> opposed to OS wonkiness?
> 
> Thanks. --- Zero One wrote: > Has anyone out there had any luck
> getting
> OpenSSL compiled and > running properly under BeOS R5.0.x, in
> particular
> with the > "net_server" rather than "BONE"?If so, please drop me an
> email >
> telling me precisely how you managed this feat, and whether you >
> compiled
> the shared libraries or not.Thank you. > > >
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