Nope.  Thus my apology.

On 8/5/03 10:59 AM, "Wayne Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this really appropriate for this mailing list
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn P. Stanley
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:52 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring
>> invasionprotection...ie Carnovore, etc....
>> 
>> 
>> I apologize for being so off-topic with regard to your question and my
>> subsequent answers, but it seems these days people look for the more
>> technical answer when a simpler, less technical solution might be more
>> effective.
>> 
>> As an example, look at how Al-Q'aeda operates with their
>> messenger-based
>> network, which both the CIA and the FBI have yet to crack.
>> 
>> I didn't mean to imply that I was judging you for having the
>> FBI in your
>> business.  It's happened to lots of good people and totally
>> ruined their
>> lives.  But I stand by what I said: if you have something
>> they want to see,
>> they WILL visit you if you close their electronic trap door.
>> 
>> On 8/5/03 12:35 PM, "buddy fancher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Shawn, I asked for a technical answer, not a judgemental opinion.
>>> Corey and Phil are right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shawn P. Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring invasion
>>> protection...ie Carnovore, etc....
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I guess my point is that if "they" are already "out to get
>> you," then
>>>> encrypting the data they're looking at now will most
>> likely result in a
>>>> house call.
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/5/03 2:57 AM, "Corey Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have to disagree here. Use encryption as often as you
>> can. Encrypt any
>>>>> and everything you can at will. Get into the habit of encrypting
>>>>> everything similar to how some of our emails are always
>> digitally signed
>>>>> using PGP or GnuPG.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Encryption must become the norm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to Phil, " If privacy it outlawed, then only
>> outlaws will have
>>>>> privacy."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 17:10, Shawn P. Stanley wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps some simple trepanation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why is the FBI trying to destroy your life?  Perhaps
>> tackling the root
>>> of
>>>>>> the problem will yield a more effective result.  Using
>> encryption will
>>>>>> likely only serve to escalate the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/4/03 5:49 PM, "buddy fancher"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>> I need some help from you guys. My computer mail and disk are
>>> constantly
>>>>>>> being written to and read back from an unknown source. I suggest
>>> perhaps
>>>>>>> Carnavore or something simular (FBI). This is an
>> invasion of my civil
>>> rights
>>>>>>> and my privacy. I have had problems with the FBI trying
>> to destroy my
>>> life
>>>>>>> before because they think they can do whatever it is
>> they please, and
>>> are
>>>>>>> above the law. They are not above the law.
>>>>>>> If anyone can give some simple advice on this problem,
>> it  will be
>>> greatly
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> They think they can destroy anyone's life, and the have
>> no one to answ
>>> er to.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Buddy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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