Lee,
Yes I am worried about tcp syn attacks, AND bogus "time wasting" ssl
negotiations - basically anything malicious that can happen to a "naked"
listening socket. I didn't think there would be a satisfactory software
solution .. just asked because there are some clever people out there...!!

cheers
Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Dilkie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: OpenSSL denial of service


> Depends on the attack itself?
>
> are you worried about syn flood type attacks, on the tcp port itself?
>
> or are you worried about ssl attacks that go through with ssl negotiation
> and simply strive to consume processing resources?
>
> the former has several solutions, including firewalls.
>
> the later is not as easy to protect yourself against. using honking big
h/w
> accelerators is one solution. I don't know of any s/w solutions.
>
> -lee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Humphreys
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:24 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: OpenSSL denial of service
> >
> >
> > Shawn,
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > It's a lovely thought, but it's not as simple as sticking in
> > a firewall I am
> > afraid ..  that leaves
> > me open to attacks that can't be blocked by the firewall ..
> > such as attacks from inside the firewall, or attacks from
> > outside that use
> > the correct port and appear to come from a valid IP address (unless I
> > block tcp connections from the internet zone, which I cannot do).
> >
> > I was just wondering if anyone did anything to reduce the
> > impact of high
> > volume brute force attacks against the listening socket, that
> > cannot be
> > blocked in any trivial way (such as the firewall).
> >
> > I take it the answer's "no" then.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shawn P. Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: OpenSSL denial of service
> >
> >
> > > I use a firewall, myself.
> > >
> > > On 8/18/03 3:08 PM, "Neil Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > Has anyone got any good examples / advice / tricks for
> > reducing the
> > impact of
> > > > denial-of-service attacks on an SSL listening socket?
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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