Pls read inline...

> > The interop problem is with 0.9.7d (no hardware switch was
> used, but I
> > do not know at the moment wether this is relevant to the issue at
> > hand). The setup works fine with 0.9.6b with all others remaining 
> > constant. However, with 0.9.7d, it seems that an empty 
> record (unable
> > to deduce if the 24B length reported by ssldump indicates a truly
> > empty record) is being written first, and the second record carries 
> > all of the data. With 0.9.6b on the other hand, the very first app 
> > record carries all the data and things work fine. Given 
> these external
> > symptoms as viewed with ssldump, I am guessing that the 0.9.7d
> > behaviour is unacceptable to IAIK/Webmethods.
> > 
> > What are the differences between openssl-engine-0.9.6b and
> > openssl-0.9.7d wrt SSL_write that might explain this, if at all? 
> > Why/what is this first app record with 0.9.7d? ssldump o/p 
> in either
> > cases is included below. (Pls search for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ to get to the
> relevant
> > sections in ssldump)
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for all responses, and for any advice on how to
> > further debug such situations (gdb bio?).
> > 
> 
> This may be due to the fact that more recent version protect
> against a certain attack by including empty fragments. This 
> is permitted in the spec but some implementations don't like it.
> 
> There are various flags which can be set to disable this
> behaviour. How you enable them depends on the application you 
> are using.

Is it true that the attack mitigation would deterministically send an
empty record first, or is it a coincidence of the implementation and 
the window I am looking at?

What are these flags, and could you please point me to ptrs/docs 
for handling them? I am using stunnel for ssl proxying, but the test
results I posted are from a simple http client that is SSL capable.
IOW, I do maintain the code and can hence use any openssl api that
might control these flags (not necessarily an app level knob).

-Maruthi

 
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