On April 17, 2006 06:48 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>   Since SSLeay is part of OpenSSL, Eric Young is by definition an
> OpenSSL author.

Egads man, would you please stop twatting on like this?! This is truly 
truly painful to watch. As if it weren't annoying enough to see the 
license getting (re)debated, despite the fact there's fsck all that can 
be done about it as things stand, we have to sift through your steaming 
piles of histrionics. Laxatives should be a strictly private matter, 
surely?!

<grumble>

> Therefore my statement is valid, as much as you may not like it.
> That is, the OpenSSL authors (you included) DON'T want to change
> the license.

Richard has generously attempted to discuss this with you in a reasonable 
manner. Allow me to try another tack; blow it out your ear, doofus.

If your point is that the "openssl authors" don't want to change the 
license because Eric (presumably) doesn't want to change the license, 
then there is nowhere left to take this discussion. Well, except perhaps 
to raise the issue with Richard Dawkins, who will no doubt be worried to 
discover that, busily posting away to openssl-users, is clear evidence of 
a significant anomaly that Darwinism can't explain. Yes, that's an 
insult, but I can assure you it's public domain - feel free to make lots 
of copies for yourself.

> I am sure you are going to squawk and claim that you want to change
> it.  But, Richard, you appointed yourself to talk for the rest of the 
> OpenSSL authors when you started arguing with me

?! What the hell have you been smoking?? Richard was speaking for himself, 
as were you. Unlike yourself however, Richard clearly was taking very 
few, if any, hallucinogens.

If you want to redistribute openssl with any of the license clauses 
removed (and/or replaced) - go ahead and try it. Good luck. In the mean 
time, please, for the love of all that is holy, stop buzzing like a 
detuned radio. This may be a difficult idea to swallow, but many people 
have thought about this issue, some have even discussed it with lawyers 
well-versed in the subject-matter, and bursting onto the forum as though 
you've had some mythic vision of a license nirvana for openssl is a sad 
spectacle to have to endure. Ragging on Richard because he apparently 
just can't understand your brilliance or worse, refuses to be enlightened 
by it, just makes this fscking aggravating to boot.

Discuss, question, reflect - by all means. But deranged evangalism should 
stay confined to the privacy of your own home (or nearest foreign policy 
think-tank).

Sincerely,
An author other than Richard

-- 
Geoff Thorpe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.openssl.org/

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