David Schwartz wrote:
Of course, for the reasons I told, I did not subscribe to:
"openssl-dev open subscribers Discussions on development of the
OpenSSL library.
Note that this is for development *of* *OpenSSL*. Just like the OpenSSL
users list is for users *of* *OpenSSL*.
Pretty sure you're the only one thinking he's on the wrong list David.
Check the 'Reply-to'/'To' e-mail headers again.
'openssl-users@openssl.org' is what shows in my e-mail client. He's on
the right list.
Then why are you downloading OpenSSL? It's a library, a toolkit.
It has no enduser application.
Uh. Yes there are.
openssl.exe
CA.pl
Either of those ring a bell? Half of the entire build process is spent
building the components necessary for openssl.exe. I tell _users_ all
the time to install Perl and use CA.pl to generate certs., cert. signing
requests, etc. Or I help them with bad openssl.exe commands. I've
fielded a LOT of requests that never made it to this list. But when I
can't answer someone's question involving openssl.exe, I tell them to
come here. You guys usually get the hard questions. All this tells me
that those two files are applications that are used by end-users.
Various Windows applications don't include OpenSSL but have dependencies
on it. Such applications tell the user to go get it. Many users
_usually_ find the binary build/installer after searching. A search for
'OpenSSL' on Google turns up the official binary distribution on the
third result for me.
Are you really sure?
I subscribed, while at the openssl.org site for this list
the description was given:
"openssl-users open anybody Application Development, OpenSSL Usage,
Installation Problems, etc."
I downloaded and installed Win32 OpenSSL v0.9.8g Light, on an
XP computer, that would mean, I'm a user, isn't it? :-)
Not of OpenSSL, no.
The Win32 OpenSSL Installation Project is a binary build of the default
build of OpenSSL wrapped up in an installer (InnoSetup). So, _yes_, he
is a user of OpenSSL.
The "Light" version is the barebones stuff needed to make most
applications (99.9%) that depend on it work (usually the DLLs are
sufficient enough) but it still includes all the stuff needed to
generate certs. The "full" version includes developer libraries to link
against, some esoteric stuff, the test suite, etc.
OpenSSL is *NOT* intended to be 'used' by people who use programs that use
it. It is intended to be used by programs and by people who make them.
What about the whole PKI thing? You know - certificates, CSRs, and all
that. Again, openssl.exe _IS_ an end-user application. Not the best or
most user-friendly app. in the world since it is command-line driven,
but just running openssl.exe DOES start an _interactive_ prompt.
--
Thomas Hruska
Shining Light Productions
Home of BMP2AVI, Nuclear Vision, ProtoNova, and Win32 OpenSSL.
http://www.slproweb.com/
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