Hi All,

Will the Openssl community will release all the openssl with fips support ie
next release of openssl will support fips capability?

Thanks

Joshi Chandran




On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Steve Marquess
<marqu...@oss-institute.org>wrote:

> PGNet wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Steve Marquess <
>> marqu...@oss-institute.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Long story short, OpenSSH really needs some source mods to
>>> gracefully invoke and run in FIPS mode.
>>>
>>
>> Hrm ... I'd have thought that openssh would be amoong the 1st/best @
>> compliance.
>>
>
> Me too.  I embarked on this FIPS validation adventure some six years ago
> because my DoD client at the time wanted a FIPS validated OpenSSH.  I
> wrote a patch several years ago but didn't push it at the time because
> the first OpenSSL FIPS Object Module validation was still pending, and
> encountering some significant opposition that took all my attention.
> Now the OpenSSH patch is not a priority for any of my clients and I
> don't have the spare time to pursue it.  I'd love to see someone else
> follow it through.
>
> To my knowledge Stunnel is the first application to formally support the
> FIPS object Module.  I've been told ProFTP has baselined support as
> well.  I've heard privately from many people who have done local mods of
> various applications, but have been disappointed in how slowly this
> support is appearing publicly.
>
>  Several people, myself included, have created patches to that end.
>>>
>>
>> Are those specific patches sourced in the openssl trees, the openssh
>> trees, or somewhere else?  I'll google, but if you have URLs ...
>>
>
> I could point you to my original very dated patch but I know there are
> some more recent updates.  Check the OpenSSH mail archives.
>
>  Of course, if you don't plan to actually run in FIPS mode and just
>>> need buzzword compliance (often the case) then what you plan should
>>> work.
>>>
>>
>> We've gotten a heads-up that a gov't client will require in the next
>> (soon, tho hasn't occurred just yet ...) contract that SSH/VPN/IPSec/etc
>> comms will be required.  Of course, detailed spec, verification, etc is not
>> yet available.
>>
>> $10 says it's for _their_ buzzword compliance ....
>>
>
> Very typical for DoD.  The mandates for *procurement* of validated
> software are (increasingly) enforced, but there doesn't seem to be any
> effective push to actually *use* a runtime FIPS mode.  That lack of
> pressure plus the interoperability issues that FIPS mode can cause means
> program managers have zero incentive to actually run anything in FIPS
> mode.  It's a paper chase.
>
> My goal is to get an all-ssh-in-fips-mode setup demo'd locally, then hand
>> it off to our tech folks so that we can then respond & document when the
>> demand occurs.
>>
>
> Please consider posting your patches to the OpenSSH lists...
>
> -Steve M.
>
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Joshi Chandran

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