On Wed August 11 2010, Tim Cloud wrote:
> Let's pretend for a moment that an out of the box application uses openssl to 
> provide access not through a browser, but rather through a SOAP client like 
> Eclipse.
> And let's also say that you have no access to the code internal to that 
> application.
> Is there any other way to limit the ciphers?  
> Some kind of config file or a special way to compile the executable? 
> 

The quick answer: 
cipher list is not limited by an external, run-time, config file.

I am a bit confused by the limits to your question, the two parts:
"have no access to the code internal to that application"
and the:
"special way to compile the executable"
seem to conflict (at least in my mind).

I suppose you know what you meant - I'll go with that assumption. ;-)

The cipers that might be used are established by agreement between client and 
server -
Two ends at which control might be effected.

Server end: (not mentioned in your limits) - remove the unwanted ciphers from 
the openssl build.
I.E: If the server doesn't have them, it can't offer them, and the client can 
choose one of them.

Client end: If the client uses the dynamic openssl libraries - just do the same 
as above.

Client end: If the "I can't rebuild it" part of the client was staticly linked 
against the openssl
libraries - then you will have to do a few handsprings -

One possible choice - put a https (or other as required) proxy on your gateway 
- edit the cipher
lists offered by client and/or server "on the fly".
Note: Does not sound like fun to me.

Mike
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On 
> Behalf Of Kyle Hamilton [aerow...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:11 PM
> To: openssl-users@openssl.org
> Cc: Alex Chen
> Subject: Re: Cipher selection
> 
>  No, OpenSSL chooses the cipher from the argument to
> SSL[_CTX]_set_cipher_list(3ssl) called on the SSL or the SSL_CTX structure.
> 
> On 8/11/10 4:57 PM, Alex Chen wrote:
> > Does openssl choose the cipher from the pem file? If so, which section of 
> > the following pem file sets the cipher for communication?
> 
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