This is at my house in my basement.   My Fortinet 60E firewall is kept on the 
latest software.   I am waiting now for 7.0.1 or 7.0.2 to be released.   
Fortinet engineers usually email me when to upgrade to the new revision.  I 
have 4 NFRs open on IPv6 and DHCPv6.    UTM is fully enabled.  Geofencing is 
configured for many countries.   I keep the certificates up to date.      I 
spend time on The Hacker News looking at reporting bugs.   I actually ran 
Nessus on my servers and they came back clean.   SSL Labs reports on my web 
site configurations.   I started learning more about cryptology.    The OpenSSL 
bugs state to upgrade beyond 1.1.1f.  

-----Original Message-----
From: openssl-users <openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org> On Behalf Of Mauricio 
Tavares
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 7:45 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: Why can't we get a proper installation method to keep OpenSSL at 
the latest revision for Linux?

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 7:02 AM Michael McKenney via openssl-users 
<openssl-users@openssl.org> wrote:
>
> My wordpress servers are under constant attack.  My Fortinet 60E firewall 
> logs are filled.  Openssl is constantly reported on The Hacker News and other 
> sites.   So I don’t need to worry about upgrading OpenSSL in the future to 
> 1.1.1k or above?   I can just use what the distro has to offer by apt?  
> Ubuntu 20.04 started with 1.1.1f.    My Kali server is mainly used for Try 
> Hack Me challenges and learn cyber security.
>
      Security is a series of compromises based on understanding your needs and 
defense in depth. For instance, do you run something like fail2ban? Do you 
monitor your logs and network traffic?

>
> From: Jan Just Keijser <janj...@nikhef.nl>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 5:55 AM
> To: Michael McKenney <mike.mcken...@scsiraidguru.com>; 
> openssl-users@openssl.org
> Subject: Re: Why can't we get a proper installation method to keep OpenSSL at 
> the latest revision for Linux?
>
>
>
> On 30/05/21 14:05, Michael McKenney wrote:
>
> Why can't we get a proper installation method to keep OpenSSL at the latest 
> revision for Linux?
>
> My biggest compliant with Linux is it is so difficult to get best practice 
> installations for services like OpenSSL.   Ubuntu is still on 1.1.1f.    I 
> have been trying to upgrade to 1.1.1k.   Openssl version -a states I am on 
> 1.1.1k.   When programs in Wordpress that use OpenSSL show I am using 
> 1.1.1.f.   Spending hours of time on various sites like AskUbuntu.com, only 
> to be disappointed.   Microsoft has best practices guides for installations.  
>  Why can’t we get them for Linux.
>
>
>
>
>
> this is both very hard and undesirable:
> openssl can be regarded as a low-level system library that is used by many 
> applications across the entire Linux distribution. You cannot simply upgrade 
> this low-level system library without breaking these applications. 
> Admittedly, for an upgrade from 1.1.1f -> 1.1.1k the risk of introducing an 
> API change is quite low, but for anything else (e.g. 1.1.0x -> 1.1.1k) you 
> will almost certainly have to rebuild and relink all applications that depend 
> on the OpenSSL libraries.
> This is not something you can expect from the Linux distro maintainers. For 
> them, it is far less risky to backport security fixes to the version of 
> OpenSSL that they built their distro on (e.g. Ubuntu 20 > 1.1.1f; CentOS 7 -> 
> 1.0.2k (yes!), etc).
>
> Note that most update woes that Windows 10 has had over the past few years 
> were related to library updates breaking applications - so even microsoft has 
> problems with "best practices".
>
> HTH,
>
> JJK

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