---- On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 05:50:03 +0900 Dmitry Tantsur <dtant...@redhat.com> 
wrote ---- 
 > 
 > 
 > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 20:07 Julia Kreger <juliaashleykre...@gmail.com wrote:
 > *removes all of the hats*
 > *removes years of dust from unrelated event planning hat, and puts it on for 
 > a moment*
 > 
 > In my experience, events of any nature where convention venue space is 
 > involved, are essentially set in stone before being publicly advertised as 
 > contracts are put in place for hotel room booking blocks as well as the 
 > convention venue space. These spaces are also typically in a relatively high 
 > demand limiting the access and available times to schedule. Often venues 
 > also give preference (and sometimes even better group discounts) to repeat 
 > events as they are typically a known entity and will have somewhat known 
 > needs so the venue and hotel(s) can staff appropriately. 
 > 
 > tl;dr, I personally wouldn't expect any changes to be possible at this point.
 > 
 > *removes event planning hat of past life, puts personal scheduling hat on*
 > I imagine that as a community, it is near impossible to schedule something 
 > avoiding holidays for everyone in the community.
 > 
 > I'm not taking about everyone. And I'm mostly fine with my holiday, but the 
 > conflicts with Russia and Japan seem huge. This certainly does not help our 
 > effort to engage people outside of NA/EU.
 > Quick googling suggests that the week of May 13th would have much fewer 
 > conflicts.
 > 
 > I personally have lost count of the number of holidays and special days that 
 > I've spent on business trips over the past four years. While I may be an 
 > out-lier in my feelings on this subject, I'm not upset, annoyed, or even 
 > bitter about lost times. This community is part of my family.
 > 
 > Sure :)
 > But outside of our small nice circle there is a huge world of people who may 
 > not share our feeling and the level of commitment to openstack. These 
 > occasional contributors we talked about when discussing the cycle length. I 
 > don't think asking them to abandon 3-5 days of holidays is a productive way 
 > to engage them.
 > And again, as much as I love meeting you all, I think we're outgrowing the 
 > format of these meetings..
 > Dmitry

Yeah, in case of Japan it is full week holiday starting from April 29th. I 
remember most of the May summits did not conflict with Golden week but this is. 
I am not sure if any solution to this now but we should consider such things in 
future. 

-gmann

 > 
 > -Julia
 > 
 > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:19 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtant...@redhat.com> wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >  
 >  Not sure how official the information about the next summit is, but it's on 
 > the 
 >  web site [1], so I guess worth asking..
 >  
 >  Are we planning for the summit to overlap with the May holidays? The 1st of 
 > May 
 >  is a holiday in big part of the world. We ask people to skip it in addition 
 > to 
 >  3+ weekend days they'll have to spend working and traveling.
 >  
 >  To make it worse, 1-3 May are holidays in Russia this time. To make it even 
 >  worse than worse, the week of 29th is the Golden Week in Japan [2]. Was it 
 >  considered? Is it possible to move the days to less conflicting time 
 > (mid-May 
 >  maybe)?
 >  
 >  Dmitry
 >  
 >  [1] https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/
 >  [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_(Japan)
 >  
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