On 06/25/2013 02:12 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
> 
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Laski <andrew.la...@rackspace.com> wrote:
> 
>> <snip>
>>
>> You're correct that there's not a large benefit to a deployer unless 
>> resources are reclaimed.  Perhaps some small power savings, and the freedom 
>> to migrate the instance transparently if desired.  I would prefer to remove 
>> the instance when it's shelved rather than waiting for something, like a 
>> periodic task or admin api call, to trigger it.  But booting disk based 
>> images can take a fairly long time so I've optimized for the case of an 
>> instance being shelved for a day or a weekend.  That way users get 
>> acceptable unshelve times for the expected case, and deployers benefit when 
>> an instance is shelved longer term.  I don't think this needs to be set in 
>> stone and the internal working can be modified as we find ways to improve it.
> 
> We had a lively discussion at the summit about this feature:
> 
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaMothballServer
> 
> The entire value proposition of this feature is that resources are the same 
> on unshelve. I don't see any way to do this outside of nova. Also, it bears 
> mentioning there is room for optimization on the unshelve using something 
> similar to live-snapshotting [1].
> 
> Vish
> 
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33698/

FWIW, totally agreed that this has to be in nova.

-- 
Russell Bryant

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