There's a ton of reviews/comparisons out there, only a google away.
________________________________ From: Doug Hellmann [doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:45 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja Great, I think I had the Mako syntax mixed up with a different templating language that depended on having a DOM to work on. Can someone put together a more concrete analysis than "this is working" so we can compare the tools? :-) Doug On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Nachi Ueno <na...@ntti3.com<mailto:na...@ntti3.com>> wrote: Hi Doug Mako looks OK for config generation This is code in review. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33148/23/neutron/services/vpn/device_drivers/template/ipsec.conf.template 2013/7/16 Doug Hellmann <doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com<mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com>>: > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > <berra...@redhat.com<mailto:berra...@redhat.com>> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:41:55AM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: >> > (This email is with regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36316/) >> > >> > Hello All, >> > >> > I have been implementing the Guru Meditation Report blueprint >> > (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/guru-meditation-report), >> > and the question of a templating engine was raised. Currently, my >> > version of the code includes the Jinja2 templating engine >> > (http://jinja.pocoo.org/), which is modeled after the Django >> > templating engine (it was designed to be an implementation of the >> > Django templating engine without requiring the use of Django), which >> > is used in Horizon. Apparently, the Cheetah templating engine >> > (http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/) is used in a couple places in Nova. >> > >> > IMO, the Jinja template language produces much more readable templates, >> > and I think is the better choice for inclusion in the Report framework. >> > It also shares a common format with Django (making it slightly easier >> > to write for people coming from that area), and is also similar to >> > template engines for other languages. What does everyone else think? >> >> Repeating my comments from the review... >> >> I don't have an opinion on whether Jinja or Cheetah is a better >> choice, since I've essentially never used either of them (beyond >> deleting usage of ceetah from libvirt). I do, however, feel we >> should not needlessly use multiple different templating libraries >> across OpenStack. We should take care to standardize on one option >> that is suitable for all our needs. So if the consensus is that >> Jinja is better, then IMHO, there would need to be an blueprint >> + expected timeframe to port existing Ceetah usage to use Jinja. >> >> Regards, >> Daniel > > > The most current release of Cheetah is from 2010. I don't have a problem > adding a new dependency on a tool that is actively maintained, with a plan > to migrate off of the older tool to come later. > > The Neutron team seems to want to use Mako > (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37177/). Maybe we should pick one? Keep in > mind that we won't always be generating XML or HTML, so my first question is > "how well does Mako work for plain text?" > > Doug > >> >> -- >> |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ >> :| >> |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org >> :| >> |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ >> :| >> |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc >> :| >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org> >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
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