Robert,

We would be interested in exploring your use case for CD, and help you judge 
what would be the best fit. I know that Monty Taylor has identified some parts 
of openstack-infra that we could potentially leverage in Solum to address our 
CI/CD goals. The design of that feature is still pending, so we are looking 
forward to sourcing its of input on that.

I don't anticipate any fundament gaps that would prevent you from using a 
future version of Solum to help narrow your scope. The whole point of our focus 
is to try to make these goals easier to achieve, and try to get maximum 
leverage of what the OpenStack ecosystem already offers.

The high level concept behind the GIt Integration feature currently conceived 
for Solum is to offer application developers a way to commit code to a Git repo 
and upon a git push command, have a remote system trigger a modular CI/CD 
pipeline that ends with that application running on an OpenStack cloud in one 
or more "environments" (dev/test/stage/prod/etc.). In a simple case that may be 
(in the case of a dynamic language like Python) the testing of the code, 
arrangement of the commit into a deployable bundle, triggering of the Solum API 
to trigger a deployment, automatic generation of a HOT artifact, and 
stimulation of the Heat API and any other API calls needed.

In a more complex scenario, you may want additional features and capabilities, 
such as a system like Gerrit to trigger the commit/push, integrate an artifact 
repository for storing the builds, etc. Using Zuul for that would be 
appropriate for sure.

There are also dev shops who already have a lot invested into their Jenkins 
setups, and will want to bypass portions of what I described above, so there 
will be a use case supported where you can just integrate with the solum API, 
and pass in a pre-built bundle artifact and bypass part or all of Solum's CI 
features, and just use it for deployment and re-deployment and promotion of a 
deployment between various environments (dev/test/pros/etc.). You would expect 
features like canary deploy in that case that might make it more attractive 
than just generating your own HOT artifact in your Jenkins workflow and passing 
that in directly for orchestration.

You should expect a higher level of control for management of the deployed 
system with abstracts that let you easily extend the system for monitoring and 
management reasons. 

Note that not all this functionality belongs in Solum. Some of it may actually 
come from Heat, and other downstream systems. The idea is that we address the 
key gaps.

Adrian

On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Robert Collins <robe...@robertcollins.net>
 wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>    I'm very interested in Solum, particularly as it relates to
> TripleO : as you know the TripleO story is to treat OpenStack as just
> another application to install via Heat/Nova etc - and we've got a
> major story around pulling from git -> CI + CD pipeline -> automated
> deployment to production.
> 
> So - where we can say 'hey, this should be part of Solum', we can hive
> stuff out of the TripleO program into Solum - but only if we've got
> compatible stories.
> 
> Right now, our design for CD is basically Gerrit + Zuul - exactly the
> same as gating checks for OpenStack itself. When I look at
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/FeatureBlueprints/GitIntegration#Flow_Boundaries
> I'm having a little trouble mapping that into your design.
> 
> I'm wondering if you can expand on how that hangs together?
> 
> Thanks!
> Rob
> 
> On 31 October 2013 14:01, Adrian Otto <adrian.o...@rackspace.com> wrote:
>> Clayton,
>> 
>> Thanks for adding the diagram illustrating the flow. I expect that "respond 
>> to client" may not be a synchronous flow, rather that if creation of a repo 
>> takes a while that the API may return a 202 Accepted, and the client can 
>> poll a status attribute to determine completion and learn the actual 
>> location of the repo created. So in that case "respond to client" also might 
>> mean "update async status". This will be particularly important in cases 
>> where an external SCM system is used (perhaps Github).
>> 
>> I agree that this will be a helpful reference to guide our upcoming 
>> interactive design sessions. I have created the first call for 
>> participation, which will also be separately announced:
>> 
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Clayton Coleman <ccole...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In the IRC meeting yesterday [1] we discussed splitting the individual 
>>> topics for the git deploy blueprint [2] into rough sub areas.  To help 
>>> frame the abstractions we've been discussing I roughed out a flow based on 
>>> two user inputs, REST API create and a git push and then tried to draw 
>>> boxes around the related bits.  The abstractions roughly correspond to the 
>>> potential areas that can be the focus of break out discussions (and if they 
>>> don't a good discussion of why is always helpful).
>>> 
>>> Squiggly boxes are potential plugin points and/or strong responsibility 
>>> boundaries.  Feedback desirable.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://irclogs.solum.io/2013/solum.2013-10-29-16.01.txt
>>> [2] 
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/FeatureBlueprints/GitIntegration#Flow_Boundaries
>>> 
>>> 
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