On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: > > > On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >> On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stef...@openstack.org> wrote: >>> On 10/31/2013 07:05 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >>> [...] >>>> If we want to grow the committer base and help people to become >>>> better reviewers, taking the time to show them the ropes is part of >>>> the game. >>> >>> hijacking the thread using Kyle's comment as an excuse. >>> >> Hey, glad to provide you an opening Stef! >> >>> It's not an 'if' but a 'since': since we are growing the committer base >>> at an incredible pace we should help them become also good reviewers as >>> rapidly possible. >>> >>> One thing I already mentioned and I'll start doing this week in the >>> weekly Newsletter is to give a shoutout to those that do their first >>> review this week. >>> >>> Another idea that Tom suggested is to use gerrit automation to send back >>> to first time committers something in addition to the normal 'your patch >>> is waiting for review' message. The message could be something like: >>> >>>> thank you for your first contribution to OpenStack. Your patch will >>>> now be tested automatically by OpenStack testing frameworks and once >>>> the automatic tests pass, it will be reviewed by other friendly >>>> developers. They will give you comments and may require you to refine >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Nobody gets his patch approved at first try so don't be concerned >>>> when someone will require you to do more iterations. >>>> >>>> Patches usually take 3 to 7 days to be approved so be patient and be >>>> available on IRC to ask and answer questions about your work. The >>>> more you participate in the community the more rewarding it is for >>>> you. You may also notice that the more you get to know people and get >>>> to be known, the faster your patches will be reviewed and eventually >>>> approved. Get to know others and be known by doing code reviews: >>>> anybody can and should do it. >>> >>> With links to the wiki for more details, of course. This sort of >>> messaging may help all the people that contribute tactically, those that >>> are asked by their manager to land a patch in here and are simply >>> lightly involved (not committed) in OpenStack. These are the ones that >>> may have an incorrect perception of how easy it is to have patches >>> landed in OpenStack as opposed to other large projects, like the kernel >>> or android and complain about our time to traverse the review system. >>> >>> What do you think? How can we instruct gerrit to do this? >>> >> I think this is a really good idea. I've seen occasions were new committers >> get antsy after waiting a few days (some even a few hours) and wondering >> why their patch isn't getting reviewed. Something like this would set the >> expectation for them correctly, and help to guide them to IRC to engage. > > I agree! I think this is an excelent idea, and I think it's totally > implementable. I'm not sure what all the details will be of that > implementation, but I'm certain it can be done. > Awesome, thanks Monty!
> We're all crazy with summit - could you file a bug at > bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci so that we don't lose track of it? > Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1246879 Thanks, Kyle > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev