On Monday 04 November 2013 13:49:20 Matthias Runge wrote: > On 11/04/2013 11:41 AM, Sascha Peilicke wrote: > > On Monday 04 November 2013 10:52:21 Maxime Vidori wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I talked with Jiri Tomasek who is currently in charge of the integration > >> of > >> Bootstrap V3 into Horizon. The integration is currently stuck and was > >> waiting for almost two month that lesscpy could parse the Bootstrap v3 > >> less > >> template. I know that Nodejs was removed because of some dependencies > >> issues in production environment, but we do not need Node in production > >> environment. > > We didn't had nodejs for a long time in fedora, because it used to > bundle a lot of code from other projects. > The other issue is, that is a quite fast moving project. When you want a > stable platform, you probably don't want to update every two to four > weeks to a newer minor-version, and probably want to avoid new major > versions at all. > > So, it ended up in: we compiled LESS code offline and combined that with > the package. That is not ideal at all for folks changing the style to > give their dashboard another look. I assume, that's a pretty common > situation.
Just to give people an impression, this is a RPM spec file stripped of everything except the nodejs / offline compression parts: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/8915603 (as seen in ) Of course you can bet that your usual consultancy-based PoC deployment won't care about such details o:-) > > Regardless of that, nodejs is a huge dependency of which not that many > > people have long experience with. While I know that nodejs is the new > > fancy of web development, things where radically different less than 2 > > years ago. It will the same in 2 years from now. That's why distros want > > to avoid it if they can. You simply don't know how reliable upstream is. > > What happens if they need to fix a security issue in that crappy old > > release that happens to be shipped in, say, openSUSE-12.2. > > Exactly, just compare the binary size with the size of less sourcecode > in horizon sourcecode at all. > > So, that being said, dropping lesscss in favor of re-integrating node.js > is a big step backwards. If there's something missing in lesscpy, we > should fix that. > > Matthias  https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Cloud:OpenStack:Grizzly/openstack-dashboard/openstack-dashboard.spec?expand=1 -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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