Hi Steve,

Thank you for comments and help.

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Steve Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/26/2013 06:21 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> There was the Design Summit session in Hong Kong about Heat integration and 
>> Savanna scalability [0]. We discussed some details about it, approved 
>> integration plan and decided to use guest agents.
>> 
>> First of all, or the Icehouse release cycle, we’ll implement resources 
>> orchestration using Heat by creating YAML templates generator, blueprints 
>> [1][2] and PoC [3]. It’ll be done by implementing extension mechanism for 
>> provisioning w/o removing current orchestration solution to transparently 
>> replace current code with the new Heat-based approach. As the first step all 
>> resources (VMs, volumes, IPs) will be provisioned by Heat using template 
>> generated by Savanna. Hadoop configuration will be done by Savanna and 
>> especially by corresponding plugins.
>> The second step of improving provisioning code will be to implement guest 
>> agent for Savanna (we’re looking at unified agent [4][5] implementation due 
>> to the growing amount of projects interested in it). Guest agents will allow 
>> Savanna plugins to configure software by interacting with vendor-specific 
>> management console APIs. The main goal of implementing agents in Savanna is 
>> to get rid of direct ssh and http access to VMs.
>> 
>> For the earlier J release cycle we’re planning to enable Heat by default and 
>> then completely remove our current direct provisioning. We’ll contribute 
>> Savanna resource to Heat, it’ll be something like “Data Processing Cluster” 
>> or just “Hadoop Cluster” at the beginning, I’ll start discussion on it 
>> separately.
>> 
>> There are some problems that we’ll try to solve to support all current 
>> Savanna features:
>> 
>> * anti-affinity support (currently implemented using scheduler hints ‘not on 
>> the specific hosts’ and stack provisioning is simultaneous in this case); 
>> there are two possible solutions - use Nova’s Group API (when it’ll be 
>> ready) or add support for it into the Heat; 
> OS::Nova::Server has the scheduler_hints property, so you could always 
> continue with the current approach in the interim.
Yep, that’s our plan for the first time.
>> * partially active stack and/or optional and mandatory resources; the 
>> easiest way to explain this is to have an example - we provisioning 100 
>> nodes with same roles (data nodes of Hadoop cluster) and only one is down, 
>> so, we can say that cluster is partially active and then rebuild failed 
>> nodes.
> Some combination of our new autoscaling and stack convergence should help 
> here.
We’ll try to research it.
>> To summarize, we’re currently finishing the PoC version of Heat-based 
>> provisioning and we’ll merge it into the codebase soon.
>> 
>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/savanna-icehouse-architecture
>> [1] 
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/heat-backed-resources-provisioning
>> [2] 
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/infra-provisioning-extensions
>> [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55978
>> [4] 
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/018276.html
>> [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UnifiedAgents
>> 
>> 
> Nice, I've just added some comments to 
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55978/ . Feel free to add me as a reviewer 
> to any others.
Really appreciate your comments, we’ll share all new reviews with you.
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