On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 6:46 AM Ghanshyam Mann <[email protected]>
wrote:

> In Cinder, there are many features/APIs which are backend specific and
> will return 405 or 501 if same is not implemented on any backend [1].
> If such tests are implemented in Tempest, then it will break some gate
> where that backend job is voting. like ceph job in glance_store gate.
>

Having a test in Tempest is important for interoperability and API backward
compatibility.
As long as available features are discoverable and reported in a consistent
way, it
is possible for app developer to write application that will work fine
against
different backends.


>
> There been many such cases recently where ceph jobs were broken due to
> such tests and recently it is for force-delete backup feature[2].
> Reverting force-delete tests in [3]. To resolve such cases at some
> extend, Jon is going to add a white/black list of tests which can run
> on ceph job [4] depends on what all feature ceph implemented. But this
> does not resolve it completely due to many reason like
> 1. External use of Tempest become difficult where user needs to know
> what all tests to skip for which backend
> 2. Tempest tests become too specific to backend.
>
> Now there are few options to resolve this:
> 1. Tempest should not tests such API/feature which are backend
> specific like mentioned by api-ref like[1].
> 2. Tempest test can be disabled/skip based on backend. - This is not
> good idea as it increase config options and overhead of setting those.
>

Tempest has many options because we decide not to rely on discovery, i.e.
we configure what we expect to find in the target cloud. I don't think we
can use
this as a factor to influence the decision in this case.


> 3. Tempest test can verify behavior with if else condition as per
> backend. This is bad idea and lose the test strength.
>
> IMO options 1 is better options. More feedback are welcome.
>
> ..1
> https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/v3/?expanded=force-delete-a-backup-detail#force-delete-a-backup
> ..2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1687538
> ..3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461625/
> ..4
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115229.html
>
> -gmann
>
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