On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 02:11:53PM -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/13/2017 12:28 PM, Paul Belanger wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:12:08AM -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 06/12/2017 06:19 PM, Ronelle Landy wrote:
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > 
> > > > TripleO OVB check gates are managed by upstream Zuul and executed on
> > > > nodes provided by test cloud RH1. RDO Cloud is now available as a test
> > > > cloud to be used when running CI jobs. To utilize to RDO Cloud, we could
> > > > either:
> > > > 
> > > >     - continue to run from upstream Zuul (and spin up nodes to deploy
> > > > the overcloud from RDO Cloud)
> > > >     - switch the TripleO OVB check gates to run as third party and
> > > > manage these jobs from the Zuul instance used by Software Factory
> > > > 
> > > > The openstack infra team advocates moving to third party.
> > > > The CI team is meeting with Frederic Lepied, Alan Pevec, and other
> > > > members of the Software Factory/RDO project infra tream to discuss how
> > > > this move could be managed.
> > > > 
> > > > Note: multinode jobs are not impacted - and will continue to run from
> > > > upstream Zuul on nodes provided by nodepool.
> > > > 
> > > > Since a move to third party could have significant impact, we are
> > > > posting this out to gather feedback and/or concerns that TripleO
> > > > developers may have.
> > > 
> > > I'm +1 on moving to third-party...eventually.  I don't think it should be
> > > done at the same time as we move to a new cloud, which is a major change 
> > > in
> > > and of itself.  I suppose we could do the third-party transition in 
> > > parallel
> > > with the existing rh1 jobs, but as one of the people who will probably 
> > > have
> > > to debug problems in RDO cloud I'd rather keep the number of variables to 
> > > a
> > > minimum.  Once we're reasonably confident that RDO cloud is stable and
> > > handling our workload well we can transition to third-party and deal with
> > > the problems that will no doubt cause on their own.
> > > 
> > This was a goal for tripleo-test-cloud-rh2, to move that to thirdparty CI,
> > ensure jobs work, then migrated. As you can see, we never actually did that.
> > 
> > My preference would be to make the move the thirdparty now, with
> > tripleo-test-cloud-rh1.  We now have all the pieces in place for RDO 
> > project to
> > support this and in parallel set up RDO cloud to run jobs from RDO.
> > 
> > If RDO stablility is a concern, the move to thirdparty first seems to make 
> > the
> > most sense. This avoid the need to bring RDO cloud online, ensure it works, 
> > then
> > move it again, and re-insure it works.
> > 
> > Again, the move can be made seemless by turning down some of the capacity in
> > nodepool.o.o and increase capacity in nodepool.rdoproject.org. And I am 
> > happy to
> > help work with RDO on making this happen.
> 
> I'm good with doing the third-party migration first too.  I'm only looking
> to avoid two concurrent major changes.
> 
Great, I am happy to hear that :D

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