On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Eric Fried <openst...@fried.cc> wrote:
> John- > > You're not the only one for whom the transition to systemd has been > painful. > > However... > > It *is* possible (some would argue just as easy) to do all things > with > systemd that were done with screen. > > For starters, have you seen [1] ? > > Though looking at that again, I realize it could use a section on > how > to do pdb - I'll propose something for that. In the meantime, feel free > to find me in #openstack-dev and I can talk you through it. > > [1] https://docs.openstack.org/devstack/latest/systemd.html > > Thanks, > Eric Fried (efried) > > On 09/07/2017 12:34 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:29 AM, John Griffith <john.griffi...@gmail.com > > <mailto:john.griffi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Please don't, some of us have no issues with screen and use it > > extensively for debugging. Unless there's a viable option using > > systemd I fail to understand why this is such a big deal. I've been > > using devstack in screen for a long time without issue, and I still > > use rejoin that supposedly didn't work (without issue). > > > > I completely get the "run like customers" but in theory I'm not sure > > how screen makes it much different than what customers do, it's > > executing the same binary at the end of the day. I'd also ask then > > is devstack no longer "dev" stack, but now a preferred method of > > install for running production clouds? Anyway, I'd just ask to > > leave it as an option, unless there's equivalent options for things > > like using pdb etc. It's annoying enough that we lost that > > capability for the API services, is there a possibility we can > > reconsider not allowing this an option? > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com > > <mailto:dava...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > w00t! > > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net > > <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: > > > On 08/31/2017 06:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > >> The work that started last cycle to make devstack only have a > > single > > >> execution mode, that was the same between automated QA and > > local, is > > >> nearing it's completion. > > >> > > >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499186/ > > <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499186/> is the patch that > > will remove > > >> screen from devstack (which was only left as a fall back for > > things like > > >> grenade during Pike). Tests are currently passing on all the > > gating jobs > > >> for it. And experimental looks mostly useful. > > >> > > >> The intent is to merge this in about a week (right before > > PTG). So, if > > >> you have a complicated devstack plugin you think might be > > affected by > > >> this (and were previously making jobs pretend to be grenade > > to keep > > >> screen running), now is the time to run tests against this > > patch and see > > >> where things stand. > > > > > > This patch is in the gate and now merging, and with it > > devstack now has > > > a single run mode, using systemd units, which is the same > > between test > > > and development. > > > > > > Thanks to everyone helping with the transition! > > > > > > -Sean > > > > > > -- > > > Sean Dague > > > http://dague.net > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > > Unsubscribe: > > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > <http://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject: > unsubscribe> > > > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > openstack-dev <http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > openstack-dev> > > > > > > > > -- > > Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: > > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > <http://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject: > unsubscribe> > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > openstack-dev <http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > openstack-dev> > > > > > > FWIW I realize my opinion doesn't count here particularly since this > > already merged, BUT I also realize that it didn't count before it merged > > either as the response I was given was "I don't use debuggers". It's > > unfortunate, perhaps I'm really the only one that has counter opinions > > on things, or maybe nobody else wants to speak up, or maybe just nobody > > cares. Either way, it's a bit of a bummer and just another thing on the > > list. > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject: > unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > Just saw your patch Eric, Thanks!!! That does indeed look simple and will shut me up :) Thanks again!!
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