Do you have any specific suggestions on things our community can do to encourage adoption? I hear lots of complaints but not many specific suggestions.
-jay On Sep 23, 2017 3:07 AM, "Adam Lawson" <alaw...@aqorn.com> wrote: > Quick note (started quick anyway) since I haven't been as active on this > list as I have in the past. > > Two things: > > 1. Great topic and addresses a historical, persistent well-known > problem with OpenStack - complexity. Technology is useless if it's so > complex new organizations can't get it to work easily or reliably. > > 2. I'm gonna call it as I'm seeing it: it makes me sick to read > statements/replies by some members taking the time to itemize every single > suggestion by another member to simplify OpenStack with one snarky remark > after another. Thankfully (hopefully?) the influence of those individuals > will lessen over time. It's literally poisonous to read and holds no value. > > Okay aside from that, as an OpenStack architect now increasing my focus on > AWS/GCP as well as OpenStack, I would suggest there are two key areas with > OpenStack that desperately need to be simplified: the architecture and the > implementation. I never hear people say the architecture is too complex so > while that can see some improvements, what I hear over and over and over > again is how hard it is to deploy OpenStack on more than one machine > quickly and easily. I think that has to be the priority. Until deployments > are easy and stable and 'just work', that's a missed opportunity and > OpenStack will continue to scare away potential new users -- like we need > any more of that. OpenStack is deep in the trough of disillusionment (my > perception) whether others recognize it or not so anything that makes > OpenStack adoption easier should be our Numero Uno goal. > > Lastly, I do think GUI's make deployments easier and because of that, I > feel they're critical. There is more than one vendor whose built and > distributes a free GUI to ease OpenStack deployment and management. That's > a good start but those are the opinions of a specific vendor - not he OS > community. I have always been a big believer in a default cloud > configuration to ease the shock of having so many options for everything. I > have a feeling however our commercial community will struggle with > accepting any method/project other than their own as being part a default > config. That will be a tough one to crack. > > That's what I got tonight. hve a great weekend. > > //adam > > > *Adam Lawson* > > Principal Architect > Office: +1-916-794-5706 <(916)%20794-5706> > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > >> Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2017-09-21 16:17:00 +0000: >> > On 2017-09-20 17:39:38 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: >> > [...] >> > > Something about common use cases and the exact mix of >> > > projects + configuration to get there, and testing it? Help? >> > [...] >> > >> > Maybe you're thinking of the "constellations" suggestion? It found >> > its way into the TC vision statement, though the earliest mention I >> > can locate is in John's post to this ML thread: >> > >> > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-Apri >> l/115319.html >> > >> >> Yes, constellations. Thanks! >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ______________ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscrib >> e >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >
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