On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Jakub Jursa <[email protected]> wrote:


On 27.09.2017 11:12, Jakub Jursa wrote:


 On 27.09.2017 10:40, Blair Bethwaite wrote:
On 27 September 2017 at 18:14, Stephen Finucane <[email protected]> wrote:
What you're probably looking for is the 'reserved_host_memory_mb' option. This defaults to 512 (at least in the latest master) so if you up this to 4192 or
 similar you should resolve the issue.

 I don't see how this would help given the problem description -
 reserved_host_memory_mb would only help avoid causing OOM when
launching the last guest that would otherwise fit on a host based on Nova's simplified notion of memory capacity. It sounds like both CPU
 and NUMA pinning are in play here, otherwise the host would have no
 problem allocating RAM on a different NUMA node and OOM would be
 avoided.

 I'm not quite sure if/how OpenStack handles NUMA pinning (why is VM
 being killed by OOM rather than having memory allocated on different
NUMA node). Anyway, good point, thank you, I should have a look at exact
 parameters passed to QEMU when using CPU pinning.


Jakub, your numbers sound reasonable to me, i.e., use 60 out of 64GB

 Hm, but the question is, how to prevent having some smaller instance
 (e.g. 2GB RAM) scheduled on such NUMA node?

 when only considering QEMU overhead - however I would expect that
might be a problem on NUMA node0 where there will be extra reserved memory regions for kernel and devices. In such a configuration where
 you are wanting to pin multiple guests into each of multiple NUMA
 nodes I think you may end up needing different flavor/instance-type
 configs (using less RAM) for node0 versus other NUMA nodes. Suggest

 What do you mean using different flavor? From what I understand (
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/juno/implemented/virt-driver-numa-placement.html https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/cpu-topologies.html ) it can
 be specified that flavor 'wants' different amount memory from its
 (virtual) NUMA nodes, but mapping vCPU <-> pCPU is more or less
arbitrary (meaning that there is no way how to specify for NUMA node0 on
 physical host that it has less memory available for VM allocation)

Can't be 'reserved_huge_pages' option used to reserve memory on certain
NUMA nodes?
https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/compute/config-options.html

I think the qemu memory overhead is allocated from the 4k memory pool so the question is if it is possible to reserve 4k pages with the reserved_huge_pages config option. I don't find any restriction in the code base about 4k pages (even if it is not considered as a large page by definition) so in theory you can do it. However this also means you have to enable NumaTopologyFilter.

Cheers,
gibi





 freshly booting one of your hypervisors and then with no guests
running take a look at e.g. /proc/buddyinfo/ and /proc/zoneinfo to see
 what memory is used/available and where.


 Thanks, I'll look into it.


 Regards,

 Jakub


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