I have two concerns. 1.) I'm hesitant to lose developer <---> operator communication more than we already have. Outcomes and conversations from the PTGs are super useful, but we don't exactly have rooms full of operators to bounce ideas off of. We can summarize outcomes and socialize reports on mailing lists, but the next real opportunity we have to collect feedback from operators about things we talked about at the PTG is during the forum. My worry is that having a single coordinated release a year is going to prioritize travel to one summit, making that interaction happen even less.
2.) A lot of things we're working on in the baremetal/vm group involves coordinating work between projects. We've used community goals to make progress on improving the platform as a whole. Community goals also require a ridiculous amount of communication and coordination, which is a good thing. But if we expect the result of this decision to be more bandwidth for completing community goals with one less PTG per year, we'll be limiting the opportunity for face-to-face communication in order to finish those goals. I agree that in order to really know how this shakes out, you have to try it. That said, I don't think you can just "try it for a year" and analyze at that point to see how things worked. You might get feedback from developers, but I'm not sure operators or user will be able to provide feedback if they haven't consumed a release under the new model yet. I'd want to make sure we get that perspective when we take a step back and see how things worked. On 12/13/2017 01:25 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > Hey > > On 13 December 2017 at 17:31, Thierry Carrez <thie...@openstack.org > <mailto:thie...@openstack.org>> wrote: > > See attached for the PDF strawman the release team came up with when > considering how that change would roll out in practice... > > > [in which the final stage of the release is 8 weeks, therefore shorter > than the other 10/11 week stages] > > I'm not going to go on about this beyond this mail, since I've been > roundly shot down about this before, but please could we have the gap > between the final milestone and the release, be longer? Every extra > week there is more release quality :) > > -- > Cheers, > > Chris > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
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